Reputation??

[brett_celicacoupe]

ahhh well. was worth a shot.


thanks for the quick reply anyway

[SeptemberSquall]

ahhh well. was worth a shot.


thanks for the quick reply anyway

But the last forums were available in blue... with super special free extra added at no extra cost non-working link-to-thread notifications... I'd love the blue with the notifications intact if it's possible to mix and match..?

[takai]

Just use a pair of these:

[Lambolica]

For all reading this thread there are a few things to keep in mind with the way in which the software operates.

Reputation is one of a few ways that that other people can see how much you have added to a forum.

There is also Rep Power which is different altogether. I have been looking at this software for a potential base for a forum I'm concidering setting up and there are literally hundereds of setting for how a persons "reputation" on the forums appears. The main 2 are the Reputation and the square under the user name but in all reality there are several other factors that can effect reputation and rep power, like post count. this is one of the reasons that the Mods have limited the post count to tech and general. as the way the site has been set up is that post whores cannot be gauged by their post count alone.
This site has been set up for Quality not quantity.

the second point is that Rep Power will play a bigger part in the forums as the forums get older. The Mods have 10 Rep power meaning that if they vote either way on your thread that you will lose/gain 10 reputation. Reputation/Post count/Time on forums etc count toward you Rep Power. It is entirely possible that if the forums have been set up this way that any one person can surpass the Admin's 10 votes if they gain that level of reputation. This in turn means that at some stage down the track a new user who conducts themselves well can gain the 40 rep value that means the majority of the site is open to them.

The forums are new and all of these tools haven't been in place long enough to see true results yet. the other point that is that the reputation isn't a score out of 100 it is indefinate.
I frequent another forum that uses the same software and you couldn't get an aviatar or post in certain sections until you gained 100 reputation. I gained 400 rep with in a week due to helping others and conducting myself correctly ( the leaders on that forum have over 10,000 reputation) and only with 5 posts.

the Mods have made it known that the reputation system exists an are encouraging people to utilise it as they see fit. different people will use it differently and thet is their prerogative, Personally I use it if the content is there and if the person is conducting them selves well (ie by the rules of the forums)

This is the behavior that I would encourage. as if in 2 years time a noob jumps on and asks questions well I will bestow reputation on him/her as will anyone else that wishes these forums to grow, as there will be very few noobs that get on and their first post would be "Tech article - Quad Turbo 1GZ-FE and how I did it" Remember how you felt when you first strated here.

Personally with with the way the forums is set up I'd would like to see the rep level the gains you the ability to post in classifides and get an avatar lowered to say 20 (instead of 40) in the short term until the system starts working (say 12 months) but I do like the concept as it has stopped the forums being used as a free classifides section for anyone to use.

My 2c

[takai]

Far out, to whoever does jump on and post the "Quad Turbo 1GZ and how I did it" thread up as their first post there would be a lot of Kudos going that way.

Kind of reminds me of that guy who jumped on the old forums and almost went "voila, my 4WD MA61"

[Joshstix]

I'd like to reply to a suggestion from earlier in the thread to only allow reputation to be given in the tech sections of the forum.

While the aim is to improve the technical content of the forums and weed out the rubbish that was being posted in the technical sections of the old forum, we still want the rest of the forum to be a nice place for Toyota enthusiasts to hang out. I think people who make a good input to other area's of the forum should definately be able to get positive feedback and conversely if someone acts like a tool and insults others in members rides etc should be able to get negative feedback.

Seriously people the reputation system is simply a method for people to let others know what they think, and most likely have thought all along, of the contribution you make to the forums. This has been happening by word of mouth all along, now it's just implemented into the software.

If you think it is fair for you to make your input to the forums why do you think it's unfair for others to have their say on the contribution.

The other thing that rep is helpful for is new users who are looking for information but have no idea who the people are that write the info they are thinking of using. On the old forum the only thing they would know is how many post the person had made and how long they had been a member of the forum. Now they have the same info and a rating of how usefull the other forums members found the posts they'd made.

As to the whinge about the 1st year apprentice and grease monkey etc, did you also complain about the regular and forums junkie etc that were used on the old forums for the same purpose?

[Mr DOHC]

Far out, to whoever does jump on and post the "Quad Turbo 1GZ and how I did it" thread up as their first post there would be a lot of Kudos going that way.

Kind of reminds me of that guy who jumped on the old forums and almost went "voila, my 4WD MA61"

if its true he did a 4WD MA61, please link me up

[myne]

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.p...1221db04338ee7

Easy.

[Bored?]

It seems to me that there are problems with the reputation system as it stands, though they haven't yet become apparent as the new forum hasn't been running for long enough.

1) If an individual's rep power is much higher than average, they could dictate the reputations of everyone else. This is likely to be apparent in the form of a small clique of those weilding the majority of rep power.

2) there is no inflation or deflation --- global reputation could increase to the point where an arbitrary rep (like 40) was completely meaningless, or in a negative society, could decease to the point where no-one had any rep at all.

[Lambolica]

1) If an individual's rep power is much higher than average, they could dictate the reputations of everyone else. This is likely to be apparent in the form of a small clique of those weilding the majority of rep power.

This small number of people who have attained such a level would know better than to abuse the system. True they could dictate the rep of others but the mods monitor this type of behavior and can would at such a time probably give the user one hell of a negative bitch slap.

2) there is no inflation or deflation --- global reputation could increase to the point where an arbitrary rep (like 40) was completely meaningless, or in a negative society, could decease to the point where no-one had any rep at all.

I'm 95% sure that the Mods have imposed a limit to rep power. however the arbitrary rep of 40 is there to stop people abusing the classifieds straight up. once 40 is surpassed the rep number is almost irrelevant except as a sign of input to the forums and of who's word to trust for a noob.

[Joshstix]

It seems to me that there are problems with the reputation system as it stands, though they haven't yet become apparent as the new forum hasn't been running for long enough.

1) If an individual's rep power is much higher than average, they could dictate the reputations of everyone else. This is likely to be apparent in the form of a small clique of those weilding the majority of rep power.

2) there is no inflation or deflation --- global reputation could increase to the point where an arbitrary rep (like 40) was completely meaningless, or in a negative society, could decease to the point where no-one had any rep at all.

Yes these things could happen, and the sun could also become a supernova. Just because something in the future could cause a need to reconfigure the reputation system doesn't mean it doesn't work. If problems arise they can be handled.

[Draven]

quick question - if someone (for example, me) were to give reputation then suddenly realise I had mis-read the post and the reputation was not deserved, is there a way to get it revoked?

[o_man_ra23]

Ok, Ive made quite a few comments on here... and many of them i stick by. But, my main gripe of the rep system currently is that people arent using it as they should. I personally try always to give rep when it is warranted pos/neg(only given 1 or 2 neg), though i find that too many ppl either have no rep power, or dont give rep when warranted. For those that have no rep power, well this can only be overcome by them gettin off thier arses and posting in the tech sections, but the other problem still remains. I should probably have the 40 rep required already... as with many other people regularly contributing to the tech section who i am constantly blocked from giving rep to cause they always deserve rep. Yes the system does need time to come of age, but peoples use of the rep system should be heavily encouraged from the moment they sign up. So as thus, i again re-iterate the need for the priveledged list to be dropped to about a rep of 25ish for now, and as others have stated, should be increased as the system comes of age and people get more rep power.

Ive always found toymods a wealth of information, especially for my planned SA23 conversion, and a great way to find hard to get parts, and sell parts which are hard to sell in a small town, though still quite hard to get.

Cheers, Owen

[EldarO]

Ok, Ive made quite a few comments on here... and many of them i stick by. But, my main gripe of the rep system currently is that people arent using it as they should. I personally try always to give rep when it is warranted pos/neg(only given 1 or 2 neg), though i find that too many ppl either have no rep power, or dont give rep when warranted. For those that have no rep power, well this can only be overcome by them gettin off thier arses and posting in the tech sections, but the other problem still remains. I should probably have the 40 rep required already... as with many other people regularly contributing to the tech section who i am constantly blocked from giving rep to cause they always deserve rep. Yes the system does need time to come of age, but peoples use of the rep system should be heavily encouraged from the moment they sign up. So as thus, i again re-iterate the need for the priveledged list to be dropped to about a rep of 25ish for now, and as others have stated, should be increased as the system comes of age and people get more rep power.

Ive always found toymods a wealth of information, especially for my planned SA23 conversion, and a great way to find hard to get parts, and sell parts which are hard to sell in a small town, though still quite hard to get.

Cheers, Owen

Clearly i need more rep, because no one is paying attention to what i write.

This rep system is not working as intended, id much rather the old system, where users with nothing to contribute were quickly dispatched throught the warning/ban system.

There are very very very few users ive seen that contribute crap, and they stick out like dogs balls.

also, id like to add that i beleive all of these complicated systems, and features/functions make these forums less pleasurable to use, especially the inevitable longer load times that the users with 56k connections are no doubt experiencing.

the old forums were to the point, simple, and did their job well.

the opinion of a forums user, this site is worth its weight in gold when it comes to information, as such i wont stop using it, however im just disapointed that, rather than build on the old forums, and fix the very few issues that there were, the whole system was stripped and redone, creating a new set of issues, and solving none of the old problems.

Eldar.O.

[oldcorollas]

This rep system is not working as intended, id much rather the old system, where users with nothing to contribute were quickly dispatched throught the warning/ban system.
also, id like to add that i beleive all of these complicated systems, and features/functions make these forums less pleasurable to use, especially the inevitable longer load times that the users with 56k connections are no doubt experiencing.

not that many people got banned on old forums, and far less than deserved to be for posting shite continuously only complete nutjobs got banned quickly.

there are a lot of people still posting crap.... it's particularly funny to read the XXXX owners threads here.. one in particular stands out as being "high quality"

when i went back to Aus recently.. and was using my mums 28k connection... the new forums loaded much faster than the old forums... it was refreshing to actually be ABLE to load the forum on a slow connection for once

in japan on my LAN speed connection, previously the old forums would still take a long time to load, as indicated by the "XXX seconds to load this page" thread on old forums prior to their demise..
new forums are quick as, and this is due to the design of the new forum...

the rep system is not as important as people are making out. it will take time for people to understand, respect, and use the system properly, but in the meantime, are you losing out?

as was said time and time again, the reason to move to new forum engine was the farkin ridiculous load times... sometimes in the range of minutes, due to the rewriting of database tables or some such nerdy thing...