Seperate section for "dedicated" threads?

[BigWorm]

OK, this seems to have gotten a bit out of hand.
My objective to starting this thread was just to get all the 1000+ post threads that have been hovering around the top of general section & cluttering things up out of the way.
I don't care whether it's a "dedicated" or whatever, if it spends more than a month on the first page of general or makes over 1000 posts I want to piss it off to a subsection, where it still exists for whoever wants to continue it but isn't cluttering up the first 10 or so threads in general.


Is that a bit easier for everyone to understand?

[BigWorm]

River, great idea, I didn't see your post before my last one.

[takai]

Hi,

I tell you what, I'll start going through the "1st gen/classic celica" thread and see what useful tidbits of information is in there and I'll extract it and see what I find. Anything deemed useful and technical will be forwarded to the mods/admin to assist them in making a decision.

There is no reason why, if the thread is relegated to a general car-specific chat-room (ie that is without useful tech info) that it can't be put into a different sub-forum under general car discussion or whatever. Mind you, we need a sticky at the top of the car-specific chat-room style threads to put useful tech info into the relevant section.

It will need modding to keep the useful tech stuff out and wher eit belongs. I'm willing to do this if this idea floats and you'd like the assistance.

Give me some time 'cos that thread is bigger than Ben Hur!!!!

Your thoughts on this? I'd rather know sooner than later if I'm going to have to trawl through a few thousand posts.

seeyuzz
river

That sounds teh goods.

[Jorrs]

OK, this seems to have gotten a bit out of hand.
My objective to starting this thread was just to get all the 1000+ post threads that have been hovering around the top of general section & cluttering things up out of the way.
I don't care whether it's a "dedicated" or whatever, if it spends more than a month on the first page of general or makes over 1000 posts I want to piss it off to a subsection, where it still exists for whoever wants to continue it but isn't cluttering up the first 10 or so threads in general.


Is that a bit easier for everyone to understand?

that sounds good to me..
using out 162 dedicated thread for an example there is alot of chit chat but also heaps of tech informtation.. if someone owns a 162 and needs an answer about something im sure its already been covered in the 162 thread as there is so much tech data in there.. not just general chit chat

[river]

Hi,

I've alredy gone through the first 50pges of the Classic Celica thread and found a few tidbits of info. Other than tht it's really people with a similar interest talking generally about there cars, plus heaps of great old school Celica pics.

I posted in that thread to see if anyone wants to help out. Once done we will take the relevant technicl information and get it onto the Technical or General Car forums, with an appropriate subject name, to assist searchs.

Once this is done the Classic Celica thread can become more of a chat-room style thread and anything technical will be placed into the Tech/General forums (dependant upon its techncil merit etc). Therefore, there should be no issues in moving this thread into a sub-section under General Car Discussion.

I hope that other vehicle/model specific threads do the same.

seeyuzz
river

[Kirsty2520]

WOW, What an Arguement.
I have to Agree with Josh though.
Toymods is supposed to be a community of it's own and to have all the dedicated threads it seems like there are alot of people that have formed there own little groups and not having alot to do with the rest of the forums....

Maybe if you guys conserned want to stick to the original threads but MAKE sure and useful tid bits are given their own special place here.

I think that a new section for them is only going to make more work for the guys then they already have.

Just my 2c

[river]

Hi,

I agree to a point.

In the end, there will always be dedicated threads as people with similar cars will congregate into a thread that is relevant for thier vehicle. I don't think you can stop this, and I don't think it would be wise to attempt it.

The point then becomes one of A) Do we leave these large (and growing) dedicated threads in the General Car forum amongst all the other threads or do we put the dedicated threads into their own subsection; and B) How do we get any relevant and good techo info out of these threads into the appropriate forum.

Point A is something the Board/Admin/Mods needs to decide if it is worthwhile to de-clutter the General car forums and make a Dedicated Car Chat forum for such threads.

Point B requires any useful existing techo information to be copied into the proper forum and monitored to ensure the dedicated threads remain "chat room like" (for want of a better term) and any good techo info is not put in there but put into the proper forum.

In regards to "own threads" this, by default, has already been put in place by the forums, where we have the "Classifieds" and the "Track" forums, where people congregate purely to those sections. We also have separate forums for events in different states - so there is divison there and it would be impossible to put everything into one basket. It's not about breaking away and forming a sub-community within Toymods, it's about providing a cleaner forum with more definable areas for people to go for their particular interests. It's all a part of the greater Toymods community and no one is challenging or desiring to be anything but a part of it.

In regards to work load of the mods...... a few of us have offered to help to maintain the forums and present them in the best possible light. We are ready, willing and able, and are waiting for the call for help so we can assist this great club/forum.

seeyuzz
river

[Kirsty2520]

River.
What i was getting at (and yes I can see where you are comming from) is that I have noticed there are certain members that ONLY post in the one thread and don't generally venture out into the wider community.

I think that the different state sub sections are a different thing entirely.
That is a place for those in that particular state to organise cruises/events and so on. noit just a place for decussion.

[river]

Hi,

River.
What i was getting at (and yes I can see where you are comming from) is that I have noticed there are certail members tha tONLY post in the one thread and don't generally venture out into the wider community.

I think that the different state sub sections are a different thing entirely.
That is a place for those in that particular state to organise cruises/events and so on. noit just a place for decussion.

Agreed. But I think ppl are going to do this anyway - that is, gravitate to their own thread(s), and I don't think we can really stop it. Also, it's not so much the thread but the type of person. You and me.... well we're like social butterflies who flit about numerous threads, spreading our wisdom, mirth and love. Some ppl aren't like that.

But, it is possible to move the larger dedicated threads to their own area. Whether the these threads are in the general car area, or somewhere else, will make little difference to the subscribers as they will still gather into their own thread.

seeyuzz
river

[oldcorollas]

B) How do we get any relevant and good techo info out of these threads into the appropriate forum.

delete them every 2000 replies, with the onus on the thread posters to produce a summarised tech post/s of all the tech in the thread before the 2000 replies otherwise it gets chopped.

[river]

Hi,

But... but.. what about all those lovely pics of peoples cars and pics of other stuff. Some of them are really nice.

seeyuzz
river

[Cuzzo]

Personally i think they are a good place to post. Questions can be asked which are easily answered instead of starting a new thread. Eg. Someone signs up that has a ke watever. He then finds the thread and ask's " Why cant i post in the for sale section??" Then answered and isnt made a fool of.

The plenty of other reasons too. I dont think it should be moved to MSN to chat because i really appreicate it, it helps to have people just listen to whats happening on "my" car instead of starting a project thread.
Just my 2c's

[ace]

I think the classic celica dedicated thread is great, basically every aspects of the cars have been discussed and the answers have been laid out, from being a part of it I know 'all' the changes between the different Celica models between 1970-1977, I also know the good aftermarket parts for them, who sells genuine or aftermarket parts for them....alot of this isn't 'technical' but is extremely important to me coming on these forums instead of others. If there was a thread created for all the different topics covering Celicas then users would come into the "Toymods Membership and Feedback" section and complain that there are too many threads on the one type of car, can't we put them all into one thread?
I think removing the technical info is a waste of time, users can use the advanced search function!!!!

I vote for creating a subsection for the POPULAR dedicated threads (probably only 10-15?).

[WDE_BDY]

I think one of the key benefits of the dedicated threads is actually motivation. It is great seeing other peoples progress (no matter how small) and guiding those starting out with a particular model with a lot of info that doesn't justify a question in the Tech forums.
By all means though I don't see a problem dropping them into a sub forum off general car talk, pretty much every regular poster will be subscribed anyway so can click User CP to see if there are new posts.

Callum

[TooF]

as one of the reguars on the AW thread i think its a tops tech resource and as mentioned it gives a perspective on each little bit of progress and work that goes on with the cars.

There are so many small bits of useful info (and often small bits) that it would be silly to disband them but at the same time silly to go starting a tech thread for every "guys can you remember the torque spec for X' or other such small items. until the original aw11 (old forums) thread was created i never reaslised how many mr2s there actually were on the forum. so whilst it does create a sub community i dont really see it isolating them from the broader community.

If anything they provide a place for obvisouly a reasnably sized group (and noisy) to keep out of others way without flooding the other sections with "hey look what i just did to my car this weekend" style threads which would no doubt be far more cumbersome and annoying then half a dozen busy threads.

That said moving them into a subforum sounds ok to me if other people are genuinly objecting to them that much. only issue is that they then become that little harder for new members to find.

Ive noticed that often a new member will post up a "i just bought an aw11 how do i...." style thread before noticing the deicated thread. This may just be becasue new users before looking around a bit more just post im not sure.


perhaps make the couple of most active dedicated threads a sticky at the tail of the page ? this way they keep out of the way of people that arnt interested, are still easily accessible for those who are interested and are still reasonably easy for new members to find.