Celica Brake Upgrade

[mikie]

what about something that comes close???
even if it is near the size of the ms65, then get a machine shop to re sleave the inside to suit, or get some bearings to fit. would this be possible? if so how expensive?? only new to this so im just throwing ideas into the air. plz dont flame me.

cheers Mike

[TA-022]

bearings are the same ... id assume you'd use a HQ seal.

but it seats perfectly on the stub.

[RAd28]

what about something that comes close???
even if it is near the size of the ms65, then get a machine shop to re sleave the inside to suit, or get some bearings to fit. would this be possible? if so how expensive?? only new to this so im just throwing ideas into the air. plz dont flame me.

cheers Mike

i got a quote on getting MS85 hubs modified to suit, and the answer from the engineer was "$150ish per facing (ie $300 per hub), and there's no guarantee it'll last because they need to build up the bearing face with an arcspray technique, then machine it back. but the real problem was the bearing spacing is larger on the MS85. so the stub axle is different, that's not to say you won't find others that will fit with less modification, personally i'd be interested in something like an RN20 'lux or something similar.

[mikie]

Would the lux fit the rt132 with some degree of ease, i.e. could it be done at home, or at least with minimal machining. I’ve already got the rt132 struts, coilover kit, shock insert and other crap, but the dude that was selling me the hubs let them go to someone else.
I really don’t want to sell all off this stuff and start again coz I spent ages finding all of it.
Anyway ill have a hunt at some wreckers and see.
Cheers Mike

[RAd28]

i don't know if the lux will be even close, just might be another option, i'm only taking into account the fact that it's a 2 stud hub from the same era, and same manufacturer...

[takai]

What pattern are HQs? 5x120 or 119.x im guessing.

[RAd28]

what about the RX-7? any idea what PCD they have?

just been thinking it might be better then the R32... will save some weight

[WDE_BDY]

HQ is around the 5 x 120 area (5 x 4.75"), RX7 5 stud is 5 x 114.3 (5 x 4.5").

Callum

[skiddz]

but will the rx-7's fit?

thought id let u all know that ln130 calipers are a goer too, cos they used vented disks and are just an ln106 with surf written up the side lol

[RAd28]

i've only heard rumor of using RX-7 callipers, i'd only imagine it'd be as easy as the R32 setup... ie, not that easy will need to make a bracket to mount the calliper, and probably machine the rotor center hole or hub.. will check it out. get back to you

[barned01]

there is a thread somewhere about this, but i can't find it... lists a handful, i think HQ hubs/discs fit since they fit the MS65 unmodified, but i think the MS65 is the only one to fit as easily as standard... i've JUST come inside from test fitting my own... if someone is willing to supply a MS85 strut and LCA i'd consider seperating with my second set of hubs...

or try contacting 'crownman' i think he mentioned he has some hubs

this isn't the stuff you are talking about is it?
http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/.../fronthub.html
taken from this link
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.p...t=0#msg_759323

which extends from my memory about using series 1 300zx hubs (of which i can't find the thread for)

more searching....
bbaacchhyy writes something about the Z31 turbo rotor here
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.p...t=0#msg_678009

and the big fat arse highly reccommended to read thread which is still relevant (ra28 hub bearings same as ma61) would be this one.
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.p...art=0&count=60

[RAd28]

looks good.. thanks barned01
we need a "top link sticky" save searching for those gem links all the time


on the topic of RX7 callipers/rotors, the RX7's have a much 'taller' rotor (inside to outside) some 67mm, which means you'd need to move the calliper inboard 56mm (43ish for the skyline) to make it fit... which is quite a distance, they're also a 294mm rotor compared with the skylines 280mm... would be interesting to compare the acctual pad/piston size.

more pondering to come

[barned01]

and caliper piston sizes for r33 (z32) and rx7 can be found here...
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5161
rx7 diameter 32mm
r33 (z32) 37mm

[RAd28]

yeah, been looking at that thread all day... didn't realise the R33, and R32 had the same piston size... that's a pretty decent difference in pistons there... though the RX7 does have the larger diameter rotor... probably makes up for the difference there, but i like the lighter calliper most... any idea what the rotor weights for the pair are?

[barned01]

i can give you the pair of r33 weights when i get home only (30mmx296mm)
but from memory they are bloody heavy
and i really mean bloody