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    How do I get the images to show up in my post?

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    use bB code to embed it.

    for example type [ i m g ] the web address of the image [ / i m g ]

    (take the spaces out though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by da_foles View Post
    How do I get the images to show up in my post?
    You can't because you've uploaded them via Toymods, if you host them somewhere else (for eg. Imageshack, Photobucket, etc) and get the direct link, then you can use what hamgatan has said and they will display.
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    Thanks.

    1. about the skin you mentioned forming on the top, once you give it a scuff you can paint straight over yeah? Or do you have to prime it (I'll be priming over anyway but just asking

    2. For those low spots (not chips/dents but a progressive low spot), can I just use high fill primer as opposed to bog? if no then why not?

    Thanks, hopefully be getting my gear tommorow

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    Normally a sanded bog surface would not be suitable for a coat of colour. Primer is applied, then rubbed down with 320-600 to give an even surface, a light coat of primer is reapplied, sanded with 800, then colour can be applied.

    Hi fill can br used for the hollows, you may have to apply a few coats that is all.

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    Hi,

    Thanks.

    I noticed some small rust on the underside of the rear gaurd, where the gaurd bends inwards near the wheel.

    Just wondering is there anyway I can slow down this process. Should I put rust converter on it and paint over, or is there some sort of coating that I can put on it that resists water spray and salt from the road?

    I've read POR15 is a rust preventative paint, maybe treat the rust and put some POR15 on?

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    id get a wire wheel SMALL one and wire wheel the paint back abit then touch up with primer etc
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    Have heard fish oil, like from Septone is good at preventing rust in these areas.

    Anyway, got my gear today to do the C Pillar.



    The paint store told me to use them in the order I have them lined up, from left to right.

    Advice I got is.

    Poor the rust treatment into a container, then apply it by brush, or it can be sprayed on and not to wash it off.

    Then etch primer, got told not to spray it across the panel but to spray it into the cap of the can, then use a brush to brush it only on the bare metal areas, he said it could damage the surrounding paint, so I'm unsure on that, Will the etch primer crack my surrounding good paint up and make the surface unstable and brittle, so am bit iffy on spraying it across panel, but beats applying with a brush so it can go on smoother if I spray it instead of brush it.
    Any ideas whether this stuff destroys surrounding paint?

    Then use the spot putty to fill up any chips.

    Then go over with the Hifill primer on the far right in the picture, apply a few coats then sand it down.

    Then apply your colour coat.

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    Ok,

    So we have bogged up all the tiny hail dints and other dints etc. Bog has been sanded back. If I run my palm over the bog I can still just feel it. Is this no good? will it show up really bad when we spray the paint. We are spraying in a black.

    As Z2TT has mentioned above is it ok to just spray the etch primer onto bare metal or should I be brushing it on?
    Once we spray the primer/filler do I just give it a rub back with 400 wet then spray again then rub back with 800 wet ready for paint?

    there are sections on the roof where the clear is still showing through where it is breaking down. We have sanded and sanded for days and we the clear just keeps growing and we have almost sanded the whole roof back to original paint. We are thinking we will just prime/filler the entire roof then blend it down to existing paint on the pillars?
    Will the primer filler remove the edge left by the clear breaking down.

    We are going to spray tomorrow.

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    da_foles, the only way to find out if the bog is too high, or too low, is to spray a guide coat. The guide coat should be a contrasting colour to any panel colour. I use a flat acrylic from a can, or chassis black in the gun, hold the spray appliance about 2 feet away from the job, and literally let the mist of paint fall on the panel. You are looking for a freckled effect, not a full wet coat. Let the guide coat dry and sand the area with 320.

    Spray the etch primer, brushing will leave brush marks.

    The primer filler is your bulk layer, used to fill imperfections, sand with with 320 dry, guide coat and sand wet with 800 wet, dry off clean up, and you are ready to apply topcoat colour. You only need to reapply primer if you bust through when sanding.

    Putting anything on top of the bad clear will only lead to heartache, you have to sand it to a panel join or swage line.

    Black paint will show every tiny imperfection in your preparation work. You have to spend a bit more time on the prep to get a pefectly flat panel.

    Z2TT, buddy your choice of paint products will determine the reult you will achieve, good luck with the Motorspray stuff.

    The etch primer CAN be used as primer, it should have zero effect on your surrounding paint, but then again you are using Motorspray!

    That spot putty is effectively dry paint solids, with thinners to allow it to flow out of the tube. The big problem with this stuff is its tendancy to shrink back and pop out of the holes when dried. You will have to wait quite a while before sanding it, the thicker it is applied the longer the drying time.

    Apply the hi fill in single coats, wait for flash off and then apply more, if you try to apply it too thick, you will be waiting a long time for it to dry out before sanding.

    cheers Chuck.
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    Default Re: The Spray Painting Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by da_foles View Post
    How do I get the images to show up in my post?
    contrary to popular belief you can make them show up the post even if you have uploaded them to the forum itself

    just click on the image, grab the URL that shows up , and put that in the image tags (click the little insert image icon at the top of the edit post window

    like so


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    Is motospray bad quality?

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    does anyone know if its possible to re clear coat a flakey bonnet/panel? iv been to 2 panel beaters but they all seem overly keen to try and sell me a 5k baremetal respray.I was considering useing a duplicolor touch up can but i would realy prefure a gun as it would give a more even coat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86-Sh*tter View Post
    does anyone know if its possible to re clear coat a flakey bonnet/panel? iv been to 2 panel beaters but they all seem overly keen to try and sell me a 5k baremetal respray.I was considering useing a duplicolor touch up can but i would realy prefure a gun as it would give a more even coat.
    No, you can't. Even with a gun.

    The bonnet will need to be sanded and resprayed.

    And 5k is a good price for a bare metal respray.
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    How long do I wait for last coat of colour to dry before I put on the first cost of clear

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