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    Default Re: 2tg or 18rg??

    so what would it take to make a 18rg make bout 120ish rwk going na??

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    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by merc-blue
    a bored stroked 2T will produce the most power
    Unless you bored and stroked an 18R-G to 2.4litres, where it's extra displacement will make more power than a bored/stroked "2litre" 2T-G.

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    Default Re: 2tg or 18rg??

    the you resleve the 2TG to a 91mm bore!!! offset gorund Y series crank!!!

    back ontopic 120RWK, as river said you will need a 18RG bored and stoked running a pretty unstreatable combo of compression, ports, valves, cams, alot of balancing work
    for the cost you could put a 1G in and get it engineered

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    dont use the mighty boat anchor and piece of shit18rg motor ,go for the 3tgte turbo factory computor etc buy rods ta23 xmember to suit a ra23 /40 series celica and have some fun .at the end of the day the 3tgte motor is a better option than the 18rg

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    crap.. double post.. my bad..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Screamn_Sleeka
    I think what is more important is deciding on a TA22 or a RA23, and i dont see why anyone would prefer a RA23 except they are more common/less old.

    FUCKING RIGHT !

    '22s all the way.. well, unless a 28 is involved, then, i'd say go that over a 22

    my suggestion: 1g is plenty of power, less work.. and not terribly hard to fit so i've heard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celica RA45
    dont use the mighty boat anchor and piece of shit18rg motor ,go for the 3tgte turbo factory computor etc buy rods ta23 xmember to suit a ra23 /40 series celica and have some fun .at the end of the day the 3tgte motor is a better option than the 18rg
    Until you need to replace a dizzy cap.
    IMO if your looking for power 1GGZE, there is no better for creap RA23 power (i prefer it over the GTE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azaaaa1
    so what would it take to make a 18rg make bout 120ish rwk going na??

    Mate... about as much money as it would cost you to buy a Beams 3SGE NA front cut and install it in ur car... making similar power and being a hell of a lot smooth/efficient

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    18rg and 2tg, is dinosaur my meng, how much money do you have to spend? dpending on that look into gettin a bigger better motor, like everyone le has already said, 4age,3sge,1g all these motors would be way better, cheaper, and more reliable.
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    cheers guys

    how hard is it to fit a 4age or 3sge?

    whats the chance of picking up a 3tgeu nowdays??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azaaaa1
    whats the chance of picking up a 3tgeu nowdays??
    A complete one which isn't rooted? Pretty slim.

    Go for something more modern unless you have a specific desire to stay with the old-school stuff (and you're prepared to pay twice as much for it). The 1G path has been travelled a thousand times, so if you're new to this game it wouldn't be a bad way to go.

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    Default Re: 2tg or 18rg??

    1g in a light weight ta22/ra23...bit of a lead tipped arrow hey??

    how bout a ca18det? cross breed? many peoplpe done this??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azaaaa1
    1g in a light weight ta22/ra23...bit of a lead tipped arrow hey??

    how bout a ca18det? cross breed? many peoplpe done this??
    Plenty, but you won't find much support for it here.
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    210rwkw - not bad for a smelly 3TGTE running pump fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azaaaa1
    1g in a light weight ta22/ra23...bit of a lead tipped arrow hey??
    1G is still a 2 Litre engine, and from some comparisons I've seen over the years on these forums, isn't really a whole lot heavier than an 18RG, especially if you mount it properly, ie low and as far back as possible.

    Its by far the easiest option for your conversion other than an 18RG, there are probably more 1G powered celicas around here these days than 18R's

    That being said, if you want NA, look at a RWD 3SGE from an Altezza... more $$$, but gets you that NA 4 cyl.

    Converting a 3SGTE to RWD is a trickier path, custom inlet and exhaust manifolds, removal of dizzy, etc etc...

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    Default Re: 2tg or 18rg??

    Quote Originally Posted by merc-blue
    Until you need to replace a dizzy cap.
    Retail for the 3T-GTE dizzy cap is less than $50 in NZ, its the rotor thats the killer (almost $200 trade last I checked).

    Callum

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