3sgte Limits???

[aw11man]

Just wondering what the approximate cost of re-sleeving a 3sge is versus seting up a 5sfe block with 3s internals and adding oil squirters.

[trd3sg]

There I've seen an S2000 with factory 11:1+ compression turbocharged running decent boost. They key was good tuning, a decent sized (read: efficient for boost level) turbo and good intercooling. Got driven nearly every day to my uni too.

Not to mention JustenGT8's car. He's running 18psi(?) on factory bottom end.

thanks for all the comments guys - orlando, totally agree with the above

im running a microtech, a t3\t4 hybrid with 0.63 rear (bushed not bb i know and ultimately i would love to throw a much more efficient turbo such as a gt30r on there but this is a turbo i have sitting at home that was rebuilt and never used - plus the 0.63 rear and to4 front wheel ensures at least some leaniency with efficiency on a 2 litre motor) on a steam pipe manifold (40mm id), 3 inch exhaust from turbo back, conservative timing and a 100mm core intercooler to reduce those intake temps as much as possible. Im also going to be using my knock sensor which comes standard on the gen 3 as an added safety net, and will be running 98 ron (as i do now anyway) or perhaps even shell's new 100 ron fuel (although i havent had the best reports about these) - the tuner is someone who i have seen tune some impressive cars and not just for power, for driveability also - and is renowned for microtech tuning in sydney.

will be using 550cc series 5 rx7 injectors (4) and a bosch 910 fuel pump to ensure fuel supply is at hand. Ive got a malpassi rising rate (1:2) regulator to keep those pressures adequate and a dual stage boost controller to allow stock wastegate boost on daily driving (7psi) and 11psi with the switch flicked most likely reserved for those cold nights or the track. I have also purchased a davies craig thermo to counter the additional stresses the turbo will put on the cooling system, and will be working to fit an aftermarket oil cooler in place as well for additional good measure and safety.

so as you can see from the above im quite conscious of the requirements of a high comp boosted motor, and also for the potential of it to turn into a grenade at any one hiccup of the variables in the equation lol (god forbid). My main concern was if the block will withstand these added cylinder pressures (high static comp plus boost - obviously will raise the all up compression ratio to more extreme levels than say a 8.5:1 running 15psi) - cos this thread got me paranoid

Much appreciated for the advice guys

[sam-131]

say hello to my little friend


nothing comes even close to lancia 16v's fiat/lancia 1.6 to 2Ls are the pinnacle of 4 cyclinder engines. stock std from the factorys of milan the lancia delta 16v head flows over 500hp!. Std rods are good for 500 hp at a 8krpm limit a delta 16v engine with larger injectors and an ecu will easly see 350hp at 14psi at bear min

tony regoil runs a hybred of new and old in his datto ute it runs a fiat 131 cast iron block with 16v head, venolia pistons, and h beam rods and that is unbeatable

there is no weakness in blocks or heads the only let down are the rods at the 500hp limit there a belt driven twin cam cam over bucket 4 banger in other terms it's got the good type of head unlike evos/sr20's with there rocker rubbish

if you still dont belive me the stats speak for them selfs since 1973 to 2006 fiat motor group has 13 wrc crowns which make them the most successful car manufacturer to enter wrc mind you they stoped racing ralle in 1992 and all 13 of them have some form of fiat twin cam 8v or 16v

as much as i do like my fiats theres allways a spot for the 3s

[5000gt]

i was pretty sure it was vince rigoli..... and yeah, that was a long babble haha.

[jfallen]

saw thqt photo, and thought, hey that's a delta.

you forgot to mention that it has twin balance shafts which make the motor exteremly smooth.

Cheers
Jordan

[cush]

3SGTE's are great..


Unless you put them in an Orange hachi..

[MR 1JZ]

3SGTE's are great..


Unless you put them in an Orange hachi..

zuh zuh zuh zing

[cush]

lol

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to MR 1JZ again."

[-Totenkopf-]

Received my fueling system for my buildup today:



Aeromotive A1000 Pump, Aeromotive FPR, 2x inline fuel filters (one pre pump, one pre rail), top feed fuel rail w/ 1000CC injectorsm checkvalve etc.

-10AN feed, -6AN return.

[trd3sg]

thats some impressive gear right there?

how much did it set you back - the braided lines alone wouldve been bout 500-600 true?

[-Totenkopf-]

its slightly used (roughly 5000km). Cost me good part of $2500. A saving of almost $1000 over buying new.

[strat]

3SGTE's are great..


Unless you put them in an Orange hachi..

Ha ha KA-BLAM-O! good work cushy, wata yo recon take the 3SGTE out of my celica then put it i the back of my mini now thats just crazy talk.

[-Totenkopf-]

I saw a 3sge in the front of a mini (small old one) at queensland raceway. The engine was practically UNDER the dash....

Sure it would have had some go though

[strat]

say hello to my little friend


nothing comes even close to lancia 16v's fiat/lancia 1.6 to 2Ls are the pinnacle of 4 cyclinder engines. stock std from the factorys of milan the lancia delta 16v head flows over 500hp!. Std rods are good for 500 hp at a 8krpm limit a delta 16v engine with larger injectors and an ecu will easly see 350hp at 14psi at bear min

F#%K yeah when i was i greece in 98 my cousin's boyfreind took me for a drive in his DELTA powered fiat punto. HELO 5th GEAR WHEEL SPIN. the thing was an animal (for those that dont know a punto is like the size of a barina or mazda 121). Yeah delta motors go hard, but a GT500 3SGTE would be very nice 2.

[cush]

Ha ha KA-BLAM-O! good work cushy, wata yo recon take the 3SGTE out of my celica then put it i the back of my mini now thats just crazy talk.

4age's been done in the back before...




and whatever v6 the camry has too