TA22 + rack and pinion

[Sam_Q]

if you do it right there is no bump steer, well none that isn't meant to be there.

I convert complete crossmembers because all the geometry stays where it should. Toyota actually put some toe in bump steer under compression for stability. Some people are trying to shorten racks and retrofit them but it's a very hard thing to get right. If anyone can do it I commend them but I don't see why they put themself through it.

Fitting S13 gear is a very bad idea as you would need super short lower control arms and in general it's a big can of worms. As you have heard it messes with multiple things and in general unless you have a very specific reason to do so and do lots of mods then you wouldn't want to go near one.

[alexlegault]

I want to put a 1uzfe vvti into it and that is why the mechanic is suggesting i upgrade suspension else it will take more money in body reinforcing trying to keep my current suspension setup while converting it to a rack and pinon setup.
i also feel like he thinks if it fits it will work. which is why im trying to get more opinons on this setup.
thanks for your reply Sam Q,

[Sam_Q]

Doesn't make sense to me, the crossmember doesn't need reinforcing and that's all that's being changed. It seems the same either way, no matter what you need to change your struts and dampers.

[alexlegault]

thats pretty much what i was thinking as well.
i think hes just too lazy to figure out how to change my current setup to rack and pinon which is why he is pushing this setup.
if that is the case i think i will ask him about an ae86 rack and pinon and crossmember.
do you think it will be close to ta22 geometry? a better option than a31 front suspension?

[hsmidy]

its been covered ae86 setup as is , wont be any good to you.
all r&p setups for the celica require additional work to have them setup correctly

[alexlegault]

can you show me a link where it has been covered please?
what is the easiest rack and pinon setup to convert to a ta22 celica x member?
This guy has put in the crossmember and rack and pinon setup from an ae86 into his ta22 with a fully adjustable suspension.
and he says it works.
http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopi...&sd=a&start=15
just had to trim in a bit on the edges to make it fit the chassis.
i really want rack and pinon just want to be able to keep my current suspension setup.

http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopi...&sd=a&start=15
http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopi...&sd=a&start=45

[SHEPPO3930]

Ke70 xmbr with the ends cut off to make it fit in the narrower ta22. Weld 50x50x3 angles to the ends where its been cut with hole drilled into them to bolt to the underside of the chassis rails. Plate in the open ends of the xmbr and gusset the angles. Don't touch the rack, leave it standard ke70. Use ta22 lower control arms to increase neg camber a little. It's not a hard thing to do, took me half a day and I'd never done it before. This is a proven method and by far the easiest/quickest way to put a ke70 xmbr and rack into a ta22.

[Sam_Q]

can you show me a link where it has been covered please?
what is the easiest rack and pinon setup to convert to a ta22 celica x member?
This guy has put in the crossmember and rack and pinon setup from an ae86 into his ta22 with a fully adjustable suspension.
and he says it works.
http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopi...&sd=a&start=15
just had to trim in a bit on the edges to make it fit the chassis.
i really want rack and pinon just want to be able to keep my current suspension setup.

http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopi...&sd=a&start=15
http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopi...&sd=a&start=45

It's been covered in this thread by my posts. Alternatively if your not in a rush I can just supply you a bolt in crossmember that's pre-converted with no engine mounts.

[jb_22]

Back on the first page, MWP has a piccie of a notched crossmember to get the rack closer to the LCAs.

Just want to clarify a couple things on why this actually was done. Was it purely to improve the steering geometry? OR needed to relieve the uni joint angle on the steering column?

Sizing up my shortened AE71 rack to the TA22 looks like it won't need the crossmember notched to keep the AE71 geometry, but I'm a little worried about the uni-joint angle once the steering column goes in. Unfortunately I don't have a spare TA22 shell to trial fit the crossmember too.

I had a gander at an AE71 with no motor in, and there seems to be a fair bit of uni-joint angle already, but the upper uni-joint is recessed into the firewall to reduce the angle.

Has anyone else on here had issues with the uni-joint angles putting a *E70 rack into a TA22?

Cheers, Jess

[Sam_Q]

the uni-joint angle is fine, don't change the mounting of the ae71 rack. I have done this job many times now.

[liteace]

Thanks Sam for the info on this thread some good pointers

[jb_22]

Only good? Hehe.. I reckon a damned sight better than good!

On the progress side of things... I've hit a halt while I find some 2T engine mounts so I can bolt this grotty old 3T to my TA22 cross member. Gotta do some trial fitment before I cut the rack mounts off the spare KE70 cross member.

On that note, does anyone have a set of 2T engine mounts they don't mind loaning? ;-)

[liteace]

I used Mazda 929 M series motor mounts on my last 3tc they are the same as rotary mounts most rwd mazdas have them and last longer

[liteace]

Forgot you can get these even cheaper and just as good and for heavy duty v8 but very compact

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LAND-ROVE...item337dea6baf

[jb_22]

Finally got my arse into gear and now the crossmember and steering column are nearly done:


TA22 crossmember with KE70 rack mounts to suit a 70mm shortened rack.

Yet to see fitment with regards to engine sump/bellhousing bracket clearance. The steering column looks to mate up fine to the rack without any issue.