how long is a suspension for driving a prohibited vehicle ?

[crowncustom]

Tasmania isn't Australia. Lol.

That's it no more RT40 info for you lol.
Cheers Brett.

[oldcorollas]

It's pretty simple- don't break the law.

everyone breaks the law at some point, not everyone gets caught

breaking the law when you could have just filled in some forms instead? priceless

[king-szeitszam]

everyone breaks the law at some point, not everyone gets caught

breaking the law when you could have just filled in some forms instead? priceless

I couldn't agree more.
Getting an exemption for a vehicle when on P-Plates is such a simple thing. I believe it's as easy as claiming financial hardship on the application form (i.e- you can't afford another car/you only have one car available to you at this time) and you're good to go.
I know quite a few people getting away with some pretty ridiculous vehicles on their provisional licenses following this route.

This will not, however, do anything to help your "shit magnet" status.
If you're going to drive a lowered turbo with a blow off valve and fully sik rimz on your P's... you might as well sticky tape your license to your drivers side window so you can just point at it every time a cop pulls you over.

[2004lowlux]

I still think this prohibited vehicle nonsense is well.....nonsense cant drive a car with a turbo so you cant drive a gt4 a much more stable car but you can drive a commodore? im sorry but this is just flat out retarded. why not just make it you cant drive a car that has a bigger engine than 1.3L and must be wrapped in no less than 15 layers of bubble wrap and painted at least one shade of high vis green, orange, or yellow and a big neon sign saying im a P plater. seriously has taking forced inducted cars out of the hands of P platers done anything? cause they still have access to reasonably powered cars regardless.

Face it as long as people even so much as move there's a chance they will kill themselves or others and unfortunately there are a large amount of people who are just plain stupid and maybe they should take themselves out maybe......same some oxygen for the rest of us folks.

[litldv8]

its still the law. man up - and take the punishment
the young fella at work can drive the workshop ute (1993 2wd hilux with a 1uzfe at any time - 24/7) just by filling out the paperwork, once every 12 months.
so it really is just laziness on your part.
neil

[oldcorollas]

seriously has taking forced inducted cars out of the hands of P platers done anything? cause they still have access to reasonably powered cars regardless.

yeah, has reduced accidents, injuries and fatalities by 25% or something?

[2004lowlux]

shhhh!!! that %25 is probably skyline drivers lol!

[Rhys k]

i waited nearly 2 and a half months too pay a speeding fine, which it didn't go up in price nor any more demerit points got taken off, so if you can, try and draw out the payment of the fine for aslong as you can and hopefully you can get the points taken off your fulls license if you manage to get them in that time..

[king-szeitszam]

i waited nearly 2 and a half months too pay a speeding fine, which it didn't go up in price nor any more demerit points got taken off, so if you can, try and draw out the payment of the fine for aslong as you can and hopefully you can get the points taken off your fulls license if you manage to get them in that time..

This can work, see below.

After about 10 mins later he gives me a $500 fine then took a picture of my engine bay and told me i cant drive the car from there and have to organise someone to drive it with a full licence. Then he stated that with this type of driving offence its gonna cost me 7 demerit points which is pretty much all my points gone for green P's. He also says i'm still legal to drive until i receive the notice from RTA of when my suspension will commence as long as its not a prohibited car.

The car is prohibited, do not drive it without proper exemption documentation.

Now i'm feeling a bit shitty because im suppose to be able to go for my full's this April but now due to this circumstances thats not looking too good. I have also been suspended a while ago for 3 months (about 6 months ago) due to losing all my points for stupid reasons like failing to display P plates twice -.- etc). I completed the 3 months suspension and gained all my points back and haven't had any circumstances until today.

You may drive a vehicle legally until notified by the RTA of your suspension. The vehicle must meet all regulations pertaining to a provisional license (not your Celica). Also, you can forget about getting your open license this year.

My questions are how long will my suspension likely be at this stage ?(first time i have been screwed over from driving a prohibited vehicle otherwise good record), is my car now 'red flagged' as in if i drive it tomorrow etc while i'm not yet officially suspended any cop car can pull me over since maybe this cop would have made a record on the system about the car being owned by a green P-plater but is turbo?

Your suspension should last approximately 6 months as you have had your license previously suspended. This is unless you're lucky enough to get away with something more lenient. Having a previous driving offense, especially whilst on your P's, generally makes leniency less likely. Every offense you have committed as a driver has been recorded and will appear when your name is filed into the system.
Information regarding your latest traffic stop and ticket issue has also been recorded. This information includes a description of the vehicle you were driving at the time, and will include the photo the officer took of your engine bay for reference. If he had the presence of mind to record the VIN, that will be there too. Do not drive the car, it has been identified as unsuitable for you to drive. Driving it again will result in some severe penalties if you are caught- your car may even be crushed or seized.

Also what are my chances of appealing it once i do receive the suspension notice, with my reason being that i have a family and a 4 year old son, in which I'm the only one that has a licence and my licence having to be essential to function on our daily lives/lifestyle (taking my son to his daycare every morning, work etc), or maybe what are the chances of getting an exemption from RTA for driving this vehicle due for the same reasons?

Your chances of appealing are 100%, you can appeal all you want- as is your right. Your chances of actually winning the appeal are nearly 0. You have previously recorded offenses and the officer will testify as to what occurred- including your speeding incident that he initially pulled you over for- and will provide an assessment of your attitude at the time of stopping as well.
The only possibility of recourse that you have is to claim hardship as a result of your suspension.
Appealing the suspension will at the very least extend the amount of time until your suspension is finalized- giving you more time to make arrangements.

[maj]

I believe they closed the "never pay the fine" loophole a while ago, t has to be paid on time or else further action is taken.

The other trick was to overpay the fine by a few dollars, they send you a cheque for the difference, tear up the cheque and the fine would be processed but the points were never deducted, they closed that one as well

Don't think you are the only person to have tried this, there are some very clever people out there who do not want to part with their money and demerit points.

[st185-gt4]

Your suspension should last approximately 6 months as you have had your license previously suspended. This is unless you're lucky enough to get away with something more lenient. Having a previous driving offense, especially whilst on your P's, generally makes leniency less likely. Every offense you have committed as a driver has been recorded and will appear when your name is filed into the system.
Information regarding your latest traffic stop and ticket issue has also been recorded. This information includes a description of the vehicle you were driving at the time, and will include the photo the officer took of your engine bay for reference. If he had the presence of mind to record the VIN, that will be there too. Do not drive the car, it has been identified as unsuitable for you to drive. Driving it again will result in some severe penalties if you are caught- your car may even be crushed or seized.




Your chances of appealing are 100%, you can appeal all you want- as is your right. Your chances of actually winning the appeal are nearly 0. You have previously recorded offenses and the officer will testify as to what occurred- including your speeding incident that he initially pulled you over for- and will provide an assessment of your attitude at the time of stopping as well.
The only possibility of recourse that you have is to claim hardship as a result of your suspension.
Appealing the suspension will at the very least extend the amount of time until your suspension is finalized- giving you more time to make arrangements.

I dont agree with the suspension being 6 months. I have already called up the RTA in regards to the matter explaining the circumstances that had happened and also mentioned to them i got suspended not long ago but it was for petty stuff like not displaying p plate on the car etc and they said it doesnt matter .. if i was to get suspended it will only be for 3 months and then i'll get all 7 points back again after the suspension.

As for appealing the matter .. i think i have a pretty good chance since if i didnt mention earlier .. i have been granted my exemption and can now drive the car legally. Took just about a week to get granted after submitting the form. I contacted the SDRO who are the people that deals with infringement and penalty notices etc and have discussed with them i have now got my exemption as i expected. They said all i have to do is fill up a 'review' form and provide a copy of my exemption document and assuming everything goes well the conviction can be overturned and no points will be deducted from my licence.. now i just have to play the waiting game and if anything i expect it to be overturned. In the end of the day regardless what SDRO says whether i do lose it for 3 months or not .. at least now i got a exemption so i wont have to rush into getting my open licence. I'm just hoping everything falls into the right place and i wont have to deal with getting suspended =]

[king-szeitszam]

I dont agree with the suspension being 6 months. I have already called up the RTA in regards to the matter explaining the circumstances that had happened and also mentioned to them i got suspended not long ago but it was for petty stuff like not displaying p plate on the car etc and they said it doesnt matter .. if i was to get suspended it will only be for 3 months and then i'll get all 7 points back again after the suspension.

As for appealing the matter .. i think i have a pretty good chance since if i didnt mention earlier .. i have been granted my exemption and can now drive the car legally. Took just about a week to get granted after submitting the form. I contacted the SDRO who are the people that deals with infringement and penalty notices etc and have discussed with them i have now got my exemption as i expected. They said all i have to do is fill up a 'review' form and provide a copy of my exemption document and assuming everything goes well the conviction can be overturned and no points will be deducted from my licence.. now i just have to play the waiting game and if anything i expect it to be overturned. In the end of the day regardless what SDRO says whether i do lose it for 3 months or not .. at least now i got a exemption so i wont have to rush into getting my open licence. I'm just hoping everything falls into the right place and i wont have to deal with getting suspended =]

I suppose you will find out shortly.

[oldcorollas]

unless they ask to check your car, and find the ECU etc

[lilcrash]

2 questions - what makes you think that you get your points back after the suspension? Points are gone for 3 years from the date of offense. I don't think they would have changed this law in the last few years. I lost my license a second and third time because I lost 1 point within the 3 year period.

- "rush into getting my open license". What are you saying. Your license automatically changes over to open after the 3 years.

[king-szeitszam]

I wasn't going to say anything but lilcrash pointed it out; I'm not sure you fully understand how the system works.

As for appealing the matter .. i think i have a pretty good chance since if i didnt mention earlier .. i have been granted my exemption and can now drive the car legally. Took just about a week to get granted after submitting the form.

It doesn't matter if you can drive the car legally now- at the time of the incident you were driving the car illegally. If you take it to court, the judge will ask "Did you or did you not have an exemption for driving that specific vehicle at that specific point in time?" To which your answer is "No."
Not only that, but you were pulled over for speeding at the same time as well- which will be recorded regardless of whether or not you were issued a ticket for it.
Thus, in the eyes of the law you are guilty of the offense and your license will be suspended.

Also as lilcrash mentioned, you will only have one point after your suspension is completed and that will remain so for three years. Also- suspensions are flexible. You can be suspended from driving essentially as long as the authorities wish you to be, and since you have a poor driving record- it is much more likely to be longer than the minimum.
You seem to believe that because your previous offenses weren't overly serious, they will somehow be overlooked or waived. This is not the case.

Regardless of whether or not you are doing the right thing now, you have done the wrong thing already and have been caught doing it. Fixing your mistake after the fact is not proper restitution in the eyes of the law and you cannot circumvent punishment by approaching the problem this way.

Personally I can't relate to your situation at all; you have committed numerous traffic violations and appear to have a problem following the rules. I have not once been pulled over for a traffic offense, nor have I ever had a single speeding or parking ticket -it really isn't that difficult...and I'm no angel when I drive either. To me it sounds like you knowingly did the wrong thing, and you're now trying to get let off based on a technicality that doesn't exist.