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    hay guys just finished doing my 2jzge swap in my mx83 it starts fine and idles great and drives fine if i dont push it past 3500rpm then i get a bad misfire like fuel cut . same as if i free rev it i get a misfire also at the same rpm so i just asking if eney of the other guys that have done the swap had the same prblem . or if you guys could popint me in the right direction . i have changed plugs and leads still the same it has a new fuel filter on it also . but im running the standerd fuel pump from the mx83 with constent 12v . so could this be the cause of not having the fuel pump control from the supra or not

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    sounds like u have the dreaded 4000 rpm rev cut heheheheh

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbass View Post
    sounds like u have the dreaded 4000 rpm rev cut heheheheh
    thats what it feels like and its starting to sh!t me

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    I'd check the NSW wiring...

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    wilbo y do you think nsw it starts and runs fine

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    Quote Originally Posted by dazzej257 View Post
    wilbo y do you think nsw it starts and runs fine
    I have a recollection of other people having similar issues related to NSW wiring.

    Just my suggestion

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    Mx83 has thick wires from key to inhibitor then to starter solenoid
    Most other late Toyota engines have thin wires

    It's means u need to hook up a relay for the inhibitor and starter to work properly
    So if this isn't done right some cars have rev limit at 4000

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    +1 for the above. Even if the NSW pin is not the case, you'll narrow your list of possible problems
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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbass View Post
    Mx83 has thick wires from key to inhibitor then to starter solenoid
    Most other late Toyota engines have thin wires

    It's means u need to hook up a relay for the inhibitor and starter to work properly
    So if this isn't done right some cars have rev limit at 4000
    ok so i bypassed the nsw and still get the same problem will only rev to 4000rpm could this be the cause of a speed signal missing or the CAS is stuffed . i did the fault code and it bring up fault code 12.

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    I'd be a bit anal about your saying 'bypassed' . What did you do exactly? Does NSW receive 0V?
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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    just cut the sta and the nsw wires from the ecu
    then see if it still does it
    if it does then it could be anything

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    Opposite to dumbass, I'd put the auto in P, ground the NSW pin then try to redline engine. If it's still limited to 4000 rpm I'd start playing with crank/cam sensor. Probably check for missing teeth, continuity in harness, metal particles on sensors
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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    i doubt its going to be the dizzy if it has a rev limit at exactly 4000 rpm
    most toyotas if there is something wired wrong will have a rev limit at 2500
    or at 4000

    u would expect it to be missing all over the shop if it was dizzy and not spot on at 4000

    did u get the ignitor all in the same kit on same motor on same front cut
    as with some motors if u use the wrong ignitor u get 4000 rpm limit and error code 12 13 or 14 if its igntiion related

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbass View Post
    i doubt its going to be the dizzy if it has a rev limit at exactly 4000 rpm
    most toyotas if there is something wired wrong will have a rev limit at 2500
    or at 4000

    u would expect it to be missing all over the shop if it was dizzy and not spot on at 4000

    did u get the ignitor all in the same kit on same motor on same front cut
    as with some motors if u use the wrong ignitor u get 4000 rpm limit and error code 12 13 or 14 if its igntiion related
    Has eney 1 got how they did the nsw wiring cause I think that maybe the problem I just want to check if I have done it right

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    Default Re: 2jzge misfire

    start signal to inhibitor
    start signal rom inhibitor to relay pin 85
    relay pin 86 to ground
    bat to pin 30
    pin 87 to starter solenoid
    nsw wire goes to start signal before inhibitor
    sta wir goes to start signal after inhibitor

    pretty simple

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