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    Default Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    Hi all, does anyone have a wiring diagram showing how to wire a 4agze cas to a wolf 3d v4?
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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    Hi Joel,

    there was a post many years ago about this and base maps that had the original images from the WOLF manual V3 for the set up. Maybe on the old forums?
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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    Damn having a shit of a time getting this running.. No one around who has current experience with it that I can pick their brain?
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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    is the engine running? or are you still trying to figure out the CAS?
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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    Can't get any decent RPM signal to the Wolf from the CAS. When cranking the engine by starter motor I see no RPM signal on the Wolf screen.

    If I remove the CAS and spin it as fast as I can by hand the fuel pump fires up and I can hear an occasional injector pulse. So it is getting 'some' signal.

    Currently I have the CAS wired up like so -

    CAS white -> TRIGGER GND (pin27)

    CAS green -> TRIG 2 (I am using the 2nd plug P12, bit confusing as being a V4 plus it seems to have a TRIG2 on the main plug and the additional plug. Manual says use additional plug.)

    CAS red -> TRIGGER 1 (pin 28)

    I think my main problem is in the software, i'm not finding the settings/configuration intuitive at all and the manual doesn't help much with reference/sync setup. It is more for single or dual pulse setup.

    Setup microtech, autronic & haltech but this Wolf is the hardest yet to get my head around.
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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    http://www.linkecu.com/support/docum...l-drawings/C04

    That is the picture i originally used when i was in your situation, learning ect..

    CAS ne goes to: +trigger on the ecu (RED ON CAS)
    CAS g1 goes to: +home (GREEN ON CAS)
    and home and trigger "-" will be wired to g- (Both WHITE ON CAS, recommend you wire each individually)

    g2 isnt used.

    You should select "reluctor" or "magnetic" as the pickup.. or something along those lines. with a 24tooth/1tooth pickup config.


    I think you possibly have the Trigger 1 and Trigger 2 mixed up.. at a guess


    Im using a haltech but the wiring will be the same + - some wording differences.
    I have since re-built, re-configured and re-wired my 4agte engine. What i found was The gze CAS was quite noisy ect.. in an attempt to combat this i have removed the unneeded pickup and wired the + and - of each pickup to their required pin i.e Home signal= Green and corresponding white(ground) to the "home' input + and - on the ecu, and the same for the trigger ect..



    Also hot tip, ( i do this ) i use a Battery drill connected to the CAS to get it spinning at a constant speed, i have sometimes found that in the haltech software the signal wont register until the signal is above a certain threshold voltage which you can manually set, so perhaps look over the software for a setting like that or something.


    Hope it helps mate, im still "amateur" at this stuff but I've learned quite a bit having done it more than 2 times now.

    cheers

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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    M8, I am going thru hell with this as well!

    My 4agze starts but as soon as I put in the PC cable it dies!

    Without the PC cable the car starts and revs to 4k but then nothing after that....

    Wish I could get someone to help me out without pouring more money to get it fixed.

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    Damn having a shit of a time getting this running.. No one around who has current experience with it that I can pick their brain?

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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    Do "wolf" have any guides or walktgroughs as to how to use there software?

    Wiring the pickup is really quite easy..

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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    Yeah I don't think I have a problem with wiring, more software..
    I've forked out and paid the $57 to get Wolf support.. Hopefully they get back to me as for a paying for support I'd expect a good turnaround time.
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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    see if this helps. it what got me out of trouble when i was getting the 3sge going (dealer tech pdf at the bottom of the post)

    here is my trigger seqencing for the 3S to run dli
    Cas config


    injector config


    ignition config


    may not be relevant to you but it shoudl givea gruff idea of how its supposed to look.
    im looking for the default st162 map to see how thats configures. ill post what i find here soon..

    you running diz, wasted spark or dli?


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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    Waste spark.. The 4agze CAS has 24 teeth on the reference so i'm not sure if the value you have for trigger sequence reset count should read 24?
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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    thi is the "help" info for the "trigger sequence reset count" out of the wolf software:

    Trigger Sequence Reset Count
    Choose this master value to indicate when the injector and ignition sequencing is to be reset or checked to be valid for a SYNC event.

    Also used by the ECU to calculate the full engine revolution time from the REF events.

    eg. A value of 4 will allow the injector and ignition sequencing values of 0,1,2,3 to apply, and the ECU will know that there are 4 REF events per entire engine revolution.


    im still looking for more info.

    is the cas running off the cam or the crank?
    Mike

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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    CAS is on the cam..
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    Default Re: Wolf3d v4 to 4agze cas wiring

    Make a backup of your current config.
    Set up your cas/triggering sequence as in the top pic.
    leave injectors as they are.
    and ignition to the following.
    Ignition 1 pulse offset:0
    Ignition 2 pulse offset:1
    Ignition 3 pulse offset:255
    Ignition 4 pulse offset:255
    Ignition 5 pulse offset:255
    Ignition 6 pulse offset:255
    Ignition 1 pulse skip:1
    Ignition 2 pulse skip:1
    Ignition 3 pulse skip:255
    Ignition 4 pulse skip:255
    Ignition 5 pulse skip:255
    Ignition 6 pulse skip:255

    that should be the right config for a 4 cyl wasted spark. and seqential injection.
    if that doesnt work then change the pulse ofser around ie.
    Ignition 1 pulse offset:1
    Ignition 2 pulse offset:0

    if you can post up a pic of your current setup for the trig seqencing.

    Cheers Mike

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