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    You'll be back

    your car looks pretty tidy BTW
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    Zulu,

    If you follow my thread you will get plenty of hints, I am going to start really putting some tech info into it soon on my build. I am a control systems engineer by day (read programmer)... and by night I get my trusty MIG out and weld up monsters!! Well, manifolds actually, but who's counting?? If your able to plan your build properly, and can understand what is being said in this thread, and the 18R-G life and times thread, then you should be pretty right. Even if you just pay for the engine to be built, and the manifolds to be made, and fit the whole schebang and wire it up yourself, you should be right. And if you do it properly, you can make it very reversible if you want to go back to original later.

    Don't let being a pencil pusher stop you, look at Normo's EleanoRA28... and he's a Math teacher come first time welder, who did the whole lot in a pig shed!! I believe in you mate (just need to learn the difference between a control arm and a trailing arm )
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    If a maths teacher can do it, I can definately do it.... I hate math teachers........ Will revisit the Turbo idea later, will stick with getting everything done with the 18RGEU and running gear. Thanks Guys for the response
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    When you do the 18R-GUE, just make sure your fuel supply and injectors are up for the turbo upgrade, and your ECU is capable of working with the amount of boost you intend (don't bother with an AFM, just use something with a MAP sensor... Adaptronic or MegaSquirt are good starting points)
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    Whats the best replacement for an 18RG dizzy. The one i have isn't electronic. Also what would be the best parts to use if i were to change it from std to electronic dizzy?

    Question 3 is it worth going to a coil pack etc for spark??

    Thanks folks!

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    LTJet.. 21RC or 22RE will give you the internals for your dizzy to be electronic. Most modern ECUs can do all the timing for you, so locking up the dizzy and throwing away the vacuum advance is also a good option. As for ignition modules, many ECUs (like the MegaSquirt 2) don't require an external module and can drive a coil directly.

    As for the question about coil packs... what ECU will you be running, and how much power will you be asking from the motor at what sort of revs?? 99 times out of 100, and 18RGTE won't require the individual coils, and no noticeable difference will be found from them.
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    but individual coils look hot, im a weird way,

    cheers.
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    If you have money to burn, and want it to look hot, by all means, buy individual coil packs. If your a normal person who spends what they can to get good bang for buck, lock the dizzy, make it electronic, and use a computer to control timing, but leave it as a single coil with dizzy.
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    pfft what is normal.
    Turbo flutter. : Its like a burp and a hiccup at the same time.

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    I'm not intending to go nuts. I plan to spend as little amount of money to get the best type of performance for the moment. Someone suggested coil packs but thats just sounds like another $4-500 at a minimum where i could probably get away with about $150 for an electronic dizzy setup and single coil as it was.

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    $150?? dizzy for the conversion will cost about $40ish, brand new coil is about $60, and if you have a decent ECU... the rest is done for you!!
    Cheers, Owen
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    Is someone able to measure the thermostat housing bolts that hold it to the block for me at all??
    I need the length and width as well as the head size - eg. size 12 or 14 head?

    I've got mine somewhere but i fear they are lost in the black hole with alot of other bolts. I've been buying new bolts for everything lately anyway.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MnToyGuy
    Just wanted to update. We still need to redo the drawing to measured dimensions. I did stop in to one wire EDM place and showed him the parts. He said it would be over $100 each for the 2 parts.

    My engineer is busy with some projects here, so he won't be able to hit the drawing for a few weeks. Once we get that, I'll send it out for bid to numerous shops.

    So we are still working on it, just slowly, LOL
    Hey there, just wanted to let everyone know, the project isn't dead, just had my engineer get pulled and he's doing production management. I did bring the pump into an EDM shop and the guy said it was probably going to be over $100 for each part. I don't have a final drawing yet, but when I get it, it'll go out for bid all over the US.

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    When you stick an EFI throttle body / fuel rail on a non EFI head, do you have to cut reliefs for the injectors? If so, does anyone have a photo of this? Just checking for a friend of mine...

    I was under the impression that you did, but had never worried about how to do it / what they looked like as I had an EFI head, he has an 18RGU head.
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    Yes you do Spectre, what I did with my old one was put the gasket on the head face, and cut in from there using the same angle as the injectors (so check the angle of the injectors before cutting in)

    Ask Norbie for a photo, as he has that motor now.
    Cheers, Owen
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