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    Looks the goods champ, wish I had machining gear at my disposal.

    I am currently getting a new pulley to suit a 6pk multi rib belt made up out of aluminium, though that will probably take another 2 weeks yet as my machinist doesn't get back to work until next Monday The pulley will also suit the trigger wheel I got from the UK (we didn't want to put a spacer up the guts to suit the twin pulley I have, so decided to machine a new one up to suit)

    My new aluminium Fidanza flywheel FINALLY came in before chrissy, the clutch weighs more than the flywheel now

    So once the pulley is done, I'll hand the pieces over to the engine builder and my bottom end will be balanced, and my bank balance will be bottom ended...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MnToyGuy View Post

    I understand many are frustrated with me, but I really had no choice with my schedule from April through end of November. I'll just keep plugging away. We do still need someone to test the prototype.

    It's a bitch getting the holes and all right as there is nothing to reference from.
    Looking Good!

    Mate you are pioneering the way and helping a mass of people out there, if they don't like how long you are taking; tell them to build it themselves! haha

    If I was in America I would test it for you, but no such luck.

    In regards to the crank pulley, I will try and drag out the verniers tonight and have a look at my donk; its a 18RG-U though but should be the same none the less.

    Happy new year!

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    just an FYI, re the pulley.
    As i recall, mine has the provisions for 3 belts. maybe thats where the 2.5mm was based on.

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    Thanks guys. Having acces to a mill and lathe makes all the difference in the world, though I only have about 8 hours under my belt on the machines, so I'm still learning.

    O man, are you going to have a blueprint for the pulley? The T3 trigger wheel is for 4AG, but if a guy could modify your pulley design to incorporate the T3 trigger wheel with a pulley for a ribbed for pleasure belt, I'd think he could sell a few to us outcasts trying to EDIS our tractor engines. I can get the specs on the trigger wheel if you or your guy might be interested. No volunteering here, too much on my plate already, but I'd be happy to help with specs and enginreering.

    Rhyno, the world is small, I may check back with you once we have the working prototype. I'd have no issue sending one to AU. There is another guy taking a different (and IMO more creative) approach, so let's see which is available first and the cost involved.

    The pulley should be the same for any RG variant. Just in case measure the front AND rear of the pulley closest to the engine. From that we can get a centerline. Water pumps and alternators are the same for all, so crank pulleys need to match as well. It woud need to be out of the car. I have a one in the car and can't get a measurement with all the shit in the way.

    Omegaman, mine was a 3 row, but I chopped off the extra weight on the lathe.

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    My pulley will just be a copy of the stock one with a 6pk pulley and provision for a missing tooth wheel. I'll post pictures once it is done, and if I get around to it, I'll draw it up in Autocad with measurements if anyone wants to copy it. I'll also be getting a twin 6pk pulley made up for the water pump, and run the air con off the front belt, or perhaps I'll just get a longer belt and run it all off the one like a snake belt. Use the alternator as the tensioner?? Will see once I get closer to the finish line.
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    Still interested to see if anyone's ever gotten power out of one of these?

    Even an atmo sheet would be interesting to see.
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    Umm... as a note, I didn't end up getting a new pulley made. I am instead going to run a single belt from the main pulley up to the water pump then to the alternator. Haven't decided yet if I will use this pulley for the AC as well and just get a really long one (V-snake belt stylz) or run the AC off the front pulley on the water pump... Will look at the pros and cons (though if I move the AC to the front pulley, then I have more clearance to the manifold, but it could cause the water pump to slip)
    Cheers, Owen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty View Post
    Still interested to see if anyone's ever gotten power out of one of these?

    Even an atmo sheet would be interesting to see.
    Hey Shifty,

    Go check out undah presah drag car page (on this forum)

    How about 8 second quarters?

    I actually picked up his old turbo and thats what I have been using for my 18RGU

    Keep up the good work guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty View Post
    Still interested to see if anyone's ever gotten power out of one of these?

    Even an atmo sheet would be interesting to see.
    Did you actually look?? There is a section for dyno sheets, just look in the xR engine variants thread.

    http://toymods.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=23576
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    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23 View Post
    Umm... as a note, I didn't end up getting a new pulley made. I am instead going to run a single belt from the main pulley up to the water pump then to the alternator. Haven't decided yet if I will use this pulley for the AC as well and just get a really long one (V-snake belt stylz) or run the AC off the front pulley on the water pump... Will look at the pros and cons (though if I move the AC to the front pulley, then I have more clearance to the manifold, but it could cause the water pump to slip)
    Hi,

    don't forget that aircon pump needs really good contact with decent tension. That's part the reason why they run em on a seperate pulley. Plus, it'd have to surely increase the chances of snapping a belt, and without that you'd kill another 18rg turbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23 View Post
    Did you actually look?? There is a section for dyno sheets, just look in the xR engine variants thread.

    http://toymods.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=23576
    Of course I did.

    There's only one dyno sheet (the others are red X's for me) and it's from a run-in-tune only... been a year since then and no further update so I can only assume it didn't make any more power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty View Post
    Of course I did.

    There's only one dyno sheet (the others are red X's for me) and it's from a run-in-tune only... been a year since then and no further update so I can only assume it didn't make any more power?
    My n/a one dyno'd a healthy 112rwkw at a measly 5500rpm (revved out cleanly to 8000rpm) because the dyno operator had only ever done aussie pushrod engines. this was back in 91 over in Perth.

    My turbo'd 18RG back in 95 ran a wheelspinning 12.8 @ 112mph in the 23 so had to be good for somewhere in the mid 200rwkw. That engine was never really tuned, always ran very fat and had heaps left in it once the stretchy stock head bolts were replaced.

    Tough engines and make good power. Heaps of them in Europe making in excess of 500hp
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    similar results in my 2.2L RG n/a build 110rwkw. more power with less cam overlap and better fuel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty View Post
    Of course I did.

    There's only one dyno sheet (the others are red X's for me) and it's from a run-in-tune only... been a year since then and no further update so I can only assume it didn't make any more power?
    Your question wasn't if there were any dyno sheets done in the last week. While 150RWKW isn't 2JZ territory, it is quite substantial, especially for a conservative run in tune. So in answer to your other wondering, yes, people have got plenty of power out of them.
    Cheers, Owen
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    Hi,

    I'll have to dump my dyno sheet for Trini.... 160rwkw.

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