Pros and cons of lowering the front more than the rear

[George]

Plus you'll look like a hick

-RM

Absolutely! I call this kind of look a "roach in attack". But as said above, rednecks would benefit from such a setup for it would allow for loading extra potatoes under your boot %)

Visually, I quite like the look as per your photos here. Don't see any reason for further lowering front end

[Luisito]

Yeah the rims didnt clear the caliper hence the 20mm(15mm cleared but needed the studs to be machined down mega dodgy) spacer giveing it a -1 offset ill try get my panel beater on soon i just hate the soarers lack of ajustamability could only get -1.8 camber. Thanks for the replys guys

[Q-Authority]

As topgun137, and others have said, lowering the front too much is not necessarily a good thing, but as most people seem to be much more concerned with looks than with proper handling, most manufacturers simply make what will sell, not necessarily what works best.

Eibach for instance never made front springs for the AW11 with more than about .75" drop because they knew that there would be a roll center issue if it was dropped much more. But because of the constant whining from clueless newbies they have actually semi-recently changed the these front springs with a current drop of about 1".

But, other than TRD, check out all of the other Japanese manufacturers of AW11 springs. They all make their sets with much less drop in the front than in the rear. The drop of their front springs are usually no more than about 22mm, or so, while the drop on the rears is considerably more. Even TRD used to make springs with less front drop than the rear, but that was before they decided bigger sales was more important than technically correct parts.

[Luisito]

Yeah which is why i was keen on finding out and since it is a more negative effect which will put all the other gear (coils sway bays etc) to waste ill have to make it clear so i dont get defected thats my major concern

[codez]

hey man, it looks fucking sick already!

but agreed it would look better tucking the fronts

[topgun137]

hey man, it looks fucking sick already!

but agreed it would look better tucking the fronts

do you want it to be F*ckin sick as bro man^^^

or do you want it to handle?

1.8 deg of negative camber is plenty for a road car, handling wise, but it all depends on your camber change in roll and a whole heap of complex stuff... In short, get different rims that FIT CORRECTLY with the widest tires you can get under those guards. Save yourself a whole heap of work.

If your want me to go into greater detail, let me know

cheers,
tim

[mullett]

As above. Even if the Tyres are inside the guard, you're still in defect city for having incorrect size and offsets. Let alone spacers, which will void your insurance as well as being illegal.

-RM

[Draven]

More importantly, as someone mentioned, there'd no way those wheels will tuck in, they're just too far out.

plus the lip of that guard looks sharp and uneven

[oldcorollas]

saw this car on the road recently.
rims look very sticky outy like they want to eat gutters or something

rears need more tyre and flares, fronts need more +ve offset and flares..

(edit: it might be the "cool kids" look, but it looks weird on the road (wide stance is good tho).. or maybe i'm just old.. )

[topgun137]

ah, i nearly forgot, having enough camber to get the top of those tires under your guards will give you rubbish handling on the street and reduced braking performance, not to mention you'll go thru tires like they are going out of fashion from the wear on the inside shoulders :-o

cheers,
tim

[roadsailing]

Needs boso flares, or some 4wd black rubber flares.

[oldcorollas]

MA61 flares? wrong shape?

[mullett]

Torana flares

-RM

[Omegaman]

i did see on the Bluewire site (he's a member here) that they sold guard lips for extending the guards wheel arche's.
It's designed to be welded onth the guards.
less of a bulky look, than bolt on flares

[Bananaman]

i tried finding them again recently and they don't list them anymore