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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    This has been Laminova'd

    But I'm afraid not a Yota, you get a glimpse of the 4 core at the very end

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBkX8...ture=rec-HM-rn



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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattMc
    Not sure if I understand your question, but to clarify, each core works in parallel so the air entering the intercooler is divided into four, a quarter of the air passing over each core. The air does not pass each core in series one after the other.

    The BMW core is stepped so that as each core takes its share of the air, the space is decreased by 25% until the last core, correspondingly the out put is increased by 25%.

    If you were to stack them you would need to use this design as in my intercooler so air can pass through each core in the same way.

    Yeah the offset design is more in line of how i thought you would use the cores?

    My bad on the BMW core, the 'void' (essentially end tank i guess) is much small than i would have expected, but i can see how it works now you've pointed it out.

    Very interested to see the results this IC produces, especially the pressure drop.

    Oh yeah,, very nice BTW
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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8
    Very interested to see the results this IC produces, especially the pressure drop.
    So how much room have you got between the bonnet and the SC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8
    Yeah the offset design is more in line of how i thought you would use the cores?

    My bad on the BMW core, the 'void' (essentially end tank i guess) is much small than i would have expected, but i can see how it works now you've pointed it out.

    Very interested to see the results this IC produces, especially the pressure drop.
    Pre and post MAP shows the pressure drop for my 4 core



    Their is no pressure drop until we get heat and the only pressure drop we do get is due to hot air becoming cold air, change in air density even I cant stop

    You can see the correlation of this with the pre and post temp.

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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    So these results for the BMW cooler or the earlier diesel one? Fantastic results for such a compact setup.

    and BZ,, yes plenty of room in the SC manifold to run a 4 core setup
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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    These results are for my set up see post 29 page 2

    My design has been refined and miniaturized as we improved the design to this. These end plates have not yet been trimmed, we take the corners off to reduce the size further. depending on application and the in and out of the intercooler.



    Here are a few of our others so far.

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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    I'm not sure if I'm getting this one right.
    I notice that the holes where the cores fit through aren't all the way to the edge & the cores don't touch each other (bit hard to machine otherwise).
    does this mean that some of the charge air could go through without touching a core?

    Just trying to figure out the air flow path through these, & it's got me a little confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagonist
    I'm not sure if I'm getting this one right.
    I notice that the holes where the cores fit through aren't all the way to the edge & the cores don't touch each other (bit hard to machine otherwise).
    does this mean that some of the charge air could go through without touching a core?

    Just trying to figure out the air flow path through these, & it's got me a little confused.

    Each core is housed in a custom designed tube we have machined to fit between the end plates. This forces the air to flow around the core in a very controlled manor. Without them the air would attempt to take the shortest easiest route.

    Laminova core in Custom tube orientated to not show the trick bits, but hope this helps.


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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    LOl the 'trick bits'....that is the key eh Could have a great design like yours obviously is or something bordering on failure
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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8
    LOl the 'trick bits'....that is the key eh Could have a great design like yours obviously is or something bordering on failure

    No failures here just

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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by wagonist
    I'm not sure if I'm getting this one right.
    I notice that the holes where the cores fit through aren't all the way to the edge & the cores don't touch each other (bit hard to machine otherwise).
    does this mean that some of the charge air could go through without touching a core?

    Just trying to figure out the air flow path through these, & it's got me a little confused.
    Hopefully not offending anybody, if you google laminova their website has some good diagrams.
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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by OnAll-FOUR
    Hopefully not offending anybody, if you google laminova their website has some good diagrams.
    No not at all plenty of great info there, you can even download the tec drawings for the cores and other bits.

    Laminova limit themselves with their housing designs and costs.

    I got a lucky break when designing the first one and in that lies the key to our design and it's not on the Laminova site

    http://www.opcon.se/index.asp?sPage=1&langID=2&cID=15

    http://www.laminova-online.se/

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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    Got the LS1 intercooler back today for the twin turbo project from been welded now for the custom end tanks. The feed is from the narrow end, with the two turbos feeding in one top and one bottom. The chilled air coming together in the center. This will feed from the rear to the front and into the throttle body. Unlike the current set up the feed is left to right. The water will flow left to right in our set up with possibly twin ice wells on each inner wing/fender. The super charger will be replaced.
    Lots of space to play with here.

    Looking good, 1800HP of cooling



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    Link to what it's going in, you can see in the last photo the intercooler we are replacing
    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2938213


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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    Coolant return lines are run on my navigators Maverick.




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    Default Re: Laminova, a very different water to air cooler.

    Mate, you keep impressing with your TIG work, those welds loose fantastic.
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