3SGE No Acceleration (video Available)

[oldcorollas]

hmm, pushing flap should make more fuel come out unless it needs TPS to be "off idle" as well? i am not familiar with the stocker systems.

is the wiring for the AFM to ECU correct? is there power at the AFM? giving correct output? (ie, not borked?)
if possible, startyabastard or gas or something in AFM and see if revs change will tell you if it is a lack of fuel.
FPR could be borked. if you have a syringe, you cna connect that to the FPR vac line, and increase/decrease pressure and see if it has any effect?
a wideband might also be useful...

has the engine had a compression test?

[horse]

comp test is around 170 across all four.

cranking of engine with out plugs didn't seem to have much fuel being squirted in there
should u be able to get some spray coming up on a crank without plugs? i did the same on my car and i had a bit of spray coming up and out of the chambers.

with the key in on, but engine not started, we have checked that there is fuel pumping through as you can feel it kick in and the flow going through the rail.

[oldcorollas]

got a fuel pressure gauge? or oil pressure gauge?
if it has fuel pressure, and has spark and correct advance, and has cams timed correctly, and doesn't have any massive air leaks or mechanical failure....

then it comes back to being electrical... sensors dead, wires broken.. pins pulled out of connectors...
migth be time to start scoping things out from the ECU end... ie, check for pulses to injectors, measure voltage/resistance of inputs...

if engine has air, fuel and spark.. it should go .. so one of them is farked...

[horse]

has spark and air lol

could most likely be fuel. is getting checked at the moment.

[Jester]

Ok I'm here, just catching up on recent posts. gimme a sec.

Edit:
ok there a lot of talk on here about my wiring being correct and i'm startin to think some people think i've converted to a 3S-GE from and FE or something, just in case that is what's going on then let me clear up that basically all that's happened is that the block has been swapped from the ADM 3S-GE to the JDM one, Apart from the T-VIS The Intake manifold is Off the Old ADM 3S-GE, The extractors are off the old engine and all the Wiring is what was already in there (ADM).
If this is not what's being talked about then i apologise and will read more carefully.

Edit2:
How do you check for pulses across the injectors? there's no way to get to the connectors without removing them or cutting into the wires, or do you mean disconnect them put the multimeter up to the terminal, turn it over and see if you get a reading?
I checked the resistance across the Injectors them selves, i Get readings around 15.5 and 14.2 Ohms. but it slowly drops, i dare say it'd keep dropping if i kept the multimeter attached longer, book states the resistance should be about 12.8.

[oldcorollas]

oh... hmm... any chance wiring could have been damaged?

what is different with the TVIS? it now has it? or now doesn't?

[Jester]

No difference about the T-VIS, it's always been on there, i was just making it clear that the Intake manifold was taken off and the ADM one put on as i was under the beleif that i needed the EGR system to pass a RWC which Huy tells me i don't.

Also i'm not sure if it has correct Advance, i'm not exactly on top of the whole "how to do the Timing" thing, I'm told it's supposed to be at 10 but i have no timing light to check. also i don't have a pressure guageto test for fuel or Vac Pressure. Greywolf said he might be sending me one down for a loan because i can't find an auto parts store around here that has one.

[oldcorollas]

stupid question time... are the heads ports the same, with and without TVIS?
the 4A's ports are a fair difference in width, and that can result in non-sealing weirdness etc...
did gaskets and ports match between the jap and ADM heads? ie, no massive leaks there on say, 1 or 2 cylinders?

[Jester]

I am starting to toy with the idea tht the gaskets may be an issue, you see my real problem lies where i had the swap done at a mechanics and i wasn't there for most of the process so couldn't check things like that however the JDM inlet matches perfectly with the ADM T-VIS plate if that's any help

[oldcorollas]

oh, so the JDM one had TVIS also? if so, then i'm barking up wrong tree

hmm, gaskets could be one thing.. dribbling water over the joint should make some difference if there are gasket issues there.
i dunno, i'm out of ideas

[Jester]

Can't even get the damn thing to turn over now

Could the 3mm vac hose i'm using be too small and causing probs?

[Jester]

Ok so i'm really worried now, tried startin it and had the AFM unclipped and side on so i could make sure the flap was actuating, and was recording at the same time, after a few cranks i got a whole lot of smoke come out of the AFM from the INLET, oh shit.

Here's the Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAS3Dmc_6C8

[oldcorollas]

whats with the clacking noise? does it actually that metallic? or is that the AFM door flapping?

it seems to get a little bit of fuel during crank, and go off that, and then after that, no fuel at all...

is the fuel pump turning off after cranking? or only turning on for pre-priming, and then turning off during cranking and after crank?

what did the smoke smell like? it is possible some smoke get blown back up the inlet adn out the AFM, from the motor.. but if it smells like electrical smoke.. maybe not.
it sounds liek it was trying to catch, and the AFM(?) was clacking a few more times before it died... smoke is probably "good smoke" as opposed to "bad smoke"

i reckon we need a checklist of all the stuff you have and haven't tried, so we can nail the problem...

in the vid when it first cathces, it sounds.. umm.. normal... but then dies??

edit:
which vac line? 3mm should be ok for everything except the brake booster

[Jester]

That clanking noise is the flap in the AFM coz it's on it's side.

I have a question about the fuel delivery, the main fuel supply comes from a large line from the Filter and a second smaller line comes into the fuel regulator straight from the tank?

Where the Main fuel line (Image1) hooks up there's this thing that's bell like and it screws in and has a hollow center (Image 2) like a banjo bolt but it's got a bell top, the thing that concerns me is there's no hole horizontally for the fuel to get in (Image 3 and Image 4), am i right assuming that this is what's wrong or is there some mystical way unbeknown to us mere mortals that fuel is being delivered?

Image 1: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSC01175.jpg
Image 2: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSC01174.jpg
Image 3: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSC01177.jpg
Image 4: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSC01178.jpg

[oldcorollas]

your links aint working... the links themselves have ... in them
fuel comes fromt he pump in the tank, goes to fuel filter, then should go directly to the fuel rail.
the fuel then goes OUT the reg at the other end of the fuel fail, and goes back to tank. the reg has the vac line on it.

that bell thing at the fuel rail inlet is the damper.. it dampens the pulsations of the fuel in the rail (hopefully), and has no other inputs or outputs.. it is just a diaphragm with a spring

i assume that is what is in the pics?

edit:
Image 1: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSC01175.jpg
Image 2: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSC01174.jpg
Image 3: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSC01178.jpg
Image 4: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSC01177.jpg

there's no hole? umm.... is that bolt hollow?

are there hole sto allow the fuel to go UP into the dampener thingy, and then down to the fuel rail?