3SGE No Acceleration (video Available)

[Dale]

I've seen that issue before (the latest one)... ironically it was on a jap spec 3sge as well. It was TPS related iirc, unplug TPS, pull EFI fuse for a minute or so, then try again

If it's still leaking fuel I doubt it's because it's too tight... probably not tight enough or the washers are deformed/have stuff stuck between them

[Jester]

Problem is if i do it up too tight it starts to bend the line, and even if i let it bend the line then it leaks a little, got 2 copper washers in there now and still a bit of leaking, also by Da Horse's request i removed the spark plugs and cranked to see if feul would come out the hole's, no luck.

is this going to mean that a) I haven't enough fuel pressure b) injectors are's finirng or c) my Injectors aren't firing enough.

I figure they must be firing since it cranks.

Will do the TPS deal once i get the fuel organized

[oldcorollas]

should only be one washer above (serrated?) and one washer below.
check the surfaces are smooth and flat, and that the waskers are smooth and flat... sometimes they are hard to get to seal well...

can you stop the line from turning somehow?

[Jester]

I've tried bracing the line with a spanner but it just doesn't work, washers are new and surfaces are flat. it's really getting to me

[greywolf]

I'll be dropping that pressure gauge in an express post bag on the way to work. Don't know if you are in the zone for next day delivery, but here is hoping that you should see it before the weekend !`

[Jester]

Thanks Wolf, looking forward to the delivery. really need it i think i'm running out of options

[ashleyw]

hey mate, just saw your topic, and the pics of your cams, so I went down to the shed and took some of mine.

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4...2008002zv4.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2...2008003yd1.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/112...2008004rq6.jpg

comparing our pics, one of us is 180 out, could well be that i'm on no 4 tdc, could be worth dogily checking yours by rotating the plugs at the dizzy, 1 to 4, 2 to 3 3 to 2 and 4 to 1, however if you are 180 out it shouldn't run, pretty much at all, so probably a dumb idea.

However I can't see enough detail in the cams pic to see if they are set properly, if you can post up a close up pic of just piston 1's lobes with the notches at the front of the cams visable.

Some questions that I don't remember being answered, are all of your injectors pulsing, you can check without a probe by just touching the injectors one by one when the car is running, you will be able to feel them tick if they are pulsing, though this doesn't mean that fuel is coming out.

and did you replace the rotor button and the dizzy cap, that button does look like shite, and the cap probably matches.

A thought straight out of left field hows your voltage at the battery when this is happening?

If nothing else at least the problem is changing regularly, should be able to narrow it down soon. though in the first video I thought it was short of fuel, second video good fuel but too much air, third video ??? could possibly be insufficient fuel rail pressure, or maybe the coil/ignitor has shat itself.

Just some more ideas for you to bash your head against a wall with

Ash

[Jester]

First of all I’d like to thank everybody Who's helped me out so far, I know there's a lot of you and I wanna thank everyone for their support, now at around 6pm last night I finally got it going and running properly however I am still worried about my timing as it's showing up somewhere around about where I imagine 20degrees advanced would be and that's about as far back as I can get it while still being able to mount the dizzy, if I take the bolts out and turn the dizzy till I’m 10 advanced then I can't secure it so I think that Ash is right and one of my cams is a way out, brilliant mechs, also my problem from the first two videos was the same thing, a copper washer on the wrong side of the damper which was preventing fuel from keeping the rail full, some was getting in but the more I ran it the more pressure built up forcing the washer deeper and deeper till the Damper was totally sealed.

Also I have got a New Rotor button, probably would be a good idea to get a new Cap as it does look totally shagged inside.

and another problem with my timing is that it seems to skip a little, it was holding steady after I replaced the TPS and got it to stop advancing itself like in the video or two before but now it still does it a bit, little worried, I personally think it probably is the worn Cap so I’ll swap that today and get back to you all but I’m no mechanic so it could be the Cams or something.

Again thanks to everyone who's helped me out so far, Especially OC and Horse, you guys are the greatest.

[Jester]

Oh and Ash.........
Damn your Head is Clean Mate, wish mine looked that good. Also i Don't think your at 1TDC, at least i Hope not coz then both my Cam's would be about 100 Degrees off. I wouldn't put it past my mech but with the washer, Don't get me wrong he;s a great bloke but what a silly mistake to cause me so much hassle.

EDIT*
Just checked with my other engine, pretty sure your at TDC on 4. still i think i might be a tooth or two out judging by my timing problem.

[Dale]

Does the timing mark jump around?

I've seen them up around where 20 degrees would be before, it was a stuffed balancer and the mark also jumped around a lot

[oldcorollas]

is that with the T and E something terminals bridged? then it would go to 10, but otherwise it will jump aroudn a fair bit as the ECU senses different conditions..
especially at idle, since timing is kind of used as stall control etc..

[Jester]

Damn, forgot about doing the bridging of the terminals, still it wouldn't be showing that far off would it? i mean bridging just stops the mark from jumping around doesn't it?
Also you can see and smell it's running fairly rich so that's to do with the timing too isn't it?

[oldcorollas]

nah, it sets it to 10 deg.. you could easily be between 10 and 25 at idle.. you need to bridge the terminals to set the base timing, otherwise, you can't tell where it is..

[horse]

Good one Travis!!!

hurry up and report back

[Jester]

My bad, will go fix now and get bac to ya.

just for you Huy