Ultra Small & light weight RWD idea.

[Mos]

KE10 with a 2ZZ-GE... Not cheap, but plenty of atmo power, with awesome fuel economy and factory reliability.

Mos.

[MR22ZZ]

KE10 with a 2ZZ-GE... Not cheap, but plenty of atmo power, with awesome fuel economy and factory reliability.

Mos.

no, no, no, don't do this*....

I ban Mos from telling anyone to buy a 2ZZ until I get mine!!!

*seriously, do it!!! I'd love to 2ZZs in as many cars as possible, a much under-rated engine... but yes, it's damn expensive.

[Mooro]

Has anyone run 2zz in front engine RWD platform yet...I thought there was difficulties with a lack of engine mount points...would be awesome though in an 800kg car

[MR22ZZ]

There have been rumors of an AE86 getting a 2ZZ but I've never seen any evidence.

It has been mounted N-S into clubmans though.

[Johnzoku]

yeah, 2zzge seams alittle out of my price range, espically with all the custom work needed to be done.

http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index...14943&hl=2zzge
thats a thread on roller club talking about the 2zz conversion.

[NeoNasty]

roll cage would be made bolt in (i have a mate that can build them for me) and something to protect the pressure vessel in the boot.



i get that from my poorly tuned 6Mge in my Z11 soarer... + diesel is as expensive as some higher grade unleded so there wouldnt be much benfit changin to that...

M.J.H - westfeilds arnt my thing not really something you can drive to and from work

Pimpin_1JZ - ive seen one in person but it didnt have a windscreen and the guy coulnt find one (he was in importer/wrecker as well :S)

It was just an example of the fuel economy. With a much lighter car, and a newer, well tuned engine you could do MUCH better! Its a mechanical injection system that the Jackaroo system which produces medeocre results. More power, and better economy.

Id love to see a little rear wheel drive diesel in a hill climb too!

[Johnzoku]

lolz... also light comericals are both heaver and geared differently so it wouldnt promote great fuel econ.

but still i think if i was to change fuels LPG would be the way to go.

also

The Australian Government has established the LPG Vehicle Scheme to assist private use motorists with the purchase of a new LPG vehicle or the conversion of a new or used petrol or diesel vehicle to LPG.

A grant of $2,000 will be paid following the LPG conversion of a new or used petrol or diesel motor vehicle.

An eligible vehicle:

Is for private use (not commercial or business use)
Is a passenger or light commercial vehicle less than 3.5 tonnes Gross Vehicle Mass
Must be registered in the Australian state or territory of residence of claimant
Is not subject to a novated lease or salary sacrifice arrangement
Must be registered for private use in NSW, VIC, QLD, WA, and the ACT
Must be declared for private use if registered in SA, TAS and NT
must have been converted or purchased within the last 12 months.

[Mos]

http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index...14943&hl=2zzge
thats a thread on roller club talking about the 2zz conversion.

Can someone who's on rollaclub ask beerhead what his sources are? (for suggesting a 4th gen 3S is all alloy....).

Mos.

[MR22ZZ]

Can someone who's on rollaclub ask beerhead what his sources are? (for suggesting a 4th gen 3S is all alloy....).

Mos.

yeah that one confused me too... I guess he read it somewhere on the interwebz so it must be right.

[MRMOPARMAN]

imo a stripped out early ke wouldnt make a great daily driver. they are very agricultural and noisey.. and thats stock. theres no little luxuries at all, not even a day night mirror!
also its gettin real hard to get decent parts for them.

but if you were to do it..

early ke

blacktop 4age

gas injection, use dohnut tank for easy mounting, and piss off the gas ecu, and use a remapped factory ecu, like a delco or similar, and if possible use staged injection

8" rims = worse fuel economy. 6 or 7's with good quality rubber should be plenty

keep everything light, use T series disc brake rear, smallish vented discs with alloy calipers, alloy tube tailshaft

fibreglass race seat etc

go on a diet

[Gavatron]

Just put a 20V Blacktop in it. 100kw atw standard (FWD) and you get bullshit good fuel economy even limitering it in every gear.

Much easier than a 2ZZ too, though I would love to see that.

[NeoNasty]

Ive been thinking about this.

Perhaps, AW11 with a gas conversion. Do some small engine work on it, and your laughing. RWD, mid mount, good economy, great handling, fairly easy to get parts.

[Johnzoku]

imo a stripped out early ke wouldnt make a great daily driver. they are very agricultural and noisey.. and thats stock. theres no little luxuries at all, not even a day night mirror!
also its gettin real hard to get decent parts for them.

but if you were to do it..

early ke

blacktop 4age

gas injection, use dohnut tank for easy mounting, and piss off the gas ecu, and use a remapped factory ecu, like a delco or similar, and if possible use staged injection

8" rims = worse fuel economy. 6 or 7's with good quality rubber should be plenty

keep everything light, use T series disc brake rear, smallish vented discs with alloy calipers, alloy tube tailshaft

fibreglass race seat etc

go on a diet

i dont mind the noise, no accessorices and agriculturalness about them, im really looking for a bare bones simple as car to drive around.

had a look at one of thoes dohnut tanks, very good idea, was thinking of a normal tank mounted behind the back seats in the boot but that could work just as well, didnt know they existed.

what do ke10, ke20's run for diffs in the first place?

AW11's are cool but ill have no where to put my BMX... at leased with the roller i can take the front wheel off and put it in the back.

[Radar]

just to be untoyota for a moment.. 13BT in a VW beetle? I hear its a case of flipping the diff over or something, don't quite see how that works but much fun to be had by all
VW beetle

[Shifty]

A Mazda 1000 ute is RWD 660kg *including* the styleside tray which is removable.

Legally you can fit up to a 1980cc atmo engine (1.6 or 1.8 MX5 engine?) or a 1650cc turbo engine (4AGTE).

Oh and I have one for sale if anyone is interested