7KE and 4KE injection manifolds PICS

[Grega]

you could look to adapting a 4AGE setup to run it, or, as cam-rush has suggested - get a delco 1227808 ECU setup from a JD (MPFI) or JE Camira, and use that. with the kalmaker software you then have a programmable computer which is infintely adjustable.

[PMP020]

you rock grega
thanx heaps for that info, ill see what i can get through work 2moro.

cheers scott

[Grega]

yeah cool. let me know if i can help. i got some delco gear lying around here.
i think kalmaker thou is 995 for street pro 3

i like the 4AGE idea personally, but, as the cams ect are very different you may have issues trying to adapt the dizzy ect. nothing that couldn't be sorted BUT its not adjustable post tune.

[madrolla68]

The sump hits the crossmember and unfortunatly the block skirt is 20 mm wider than 4 or 5 k so the earlyer sumps dont fit . The engine mounts fit on but due to the block being wider it doesnt bolt in 100% nicely.
A bit of panelbeating to the sump seams to work ok
Dave

Are you referring to the 7K in a KE series car ,cause im in the process of fitting a 7K to my KE10..
Any tips you can give me.

[WDE_BDY]

http://www.zeroyon.com/forums/lofive...php/t7907.html

Madrolla, this link might help you for the 7k swap.
A mate on Club K considered swapping his supercharger setup off his 5K to a 7K but after buying one and stripping it down he decided it wasn't worth it without some substantial internal upgrades. I'm still intrigued by this swap, might consider it once a few other projects are out of the way.

Callum

[madrolla68]

http://www.zeroyon.com/forums/lofive...php/t7907.html

Madrolla, this link might help you for the 7k swap.
A mate on Club K considered swapping his supercharger setup off his 5K to a 7K but after buying one and stripping it down he decided it wasn't worth it without some substantial internal upgrades. I'm still intrigued by this swap, might consider it once a few other projects are out of the way.

Callum

I have heard a lot about the 7K's ,but hey until i try it i will never know.I mean they are a supposed to be an industrial engine so they should take some curry.

The &a series engine came factory turbo and these engines have the same rods so these should handle a little puff and maybe a little NOS>

[oldcorollas]

for megasquirt stuff

www.msefi.com

and to buy, from www.diyautotune.com

all you need is an MS1 vs V2.2 board...
with black case, it's US$140 plus post. plain case is US$134...

you would want to change the TPS to something that is variable, rather than switch, and you can ditch the AFM, as the MS uses onboard MAP anyway..

[PMP020]

hey thanx for the links stuart
the 1st one dosent work, i had a quikc look through the DIY site.

i fount he MS1 ecu, couldnt find it unassembled, only assembled for $240
wat is the 2.2? will that come with it?
i am very much new to all this new EFI computer stuff.

im still stuk in carby n pionts land.
any more help would be much appricited from everyone

anyone that has used one of these computers before? some feedback.

cheers scott

[oldcorollas]

first link is the forums.. they seem to be down atm...

http://www.megasquirt.info/v22manual/mtabcon.htm is the megamanual... start readin

V2.2 PCB just has a few less bits... i used it for the 4K tho.



the ones i was talking about
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...ase-p-128.html

http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...bled-p-28.html

but of course, the V3 is a bit better, and MS2 is looking good... but you can run fuel and spark on the V2.2 PCB with MS1 using "megasquirt n spark" firmware...

[bnicho]

I didn't even know the 7K existed until I saw this:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Looks like a great setup.

[joecoolmk2]

so do ALL liteaces have the fuel injection or just some of them? i'm lookin at buying a 1983 liteace, in tas if that makes a difference.

[oldcorollas]

umm as far as i know, the US starlet has 4KE injection. (KP61, around 1983)
the 7KE comes from Townace SBV, which was around 2000 model.

i am not sure i have ever reliably heard of a liteace EFI.. liteace has 5K? but i have also never heard of a 5K EFI

where did you get your info joecoolmk2??

if you are looking at buying the car.. go and have a look or call the owner

[joecoolmk2]

umm as far as i know, the US starlet has 4KE injection. (KP61, around 1983)
the 7KE comes from Townace SBV, which was around 2000 model.

i am not sure i have ever reliably heard of a liteace EFI.. liteace has 5K? but i have also never heard of a 5K EFI

where did you get your info joecoolmk2??

if you are looking at buying the car.. go and have a look or call the owner

yeah i should just go look at it. from info i've found they're a 4k(1300)

i saw someone mention liteaces on this thread or another thread, that's why i asked.

[Cam-Rush]

sorry pmp, i couldnt find that article, from what i can remember it wasnt all that difficult to hook up a delco, and they are had pretty cheaply at wreckers, so maybe just get one and have a crack!
i would be more inclined to go for what oldcorollas said, have you checked out the megasquirt website?
has anyone ever heard of anyone adapting 4AG efi setup or similar to a K motor? i wonder if it is worth doing on a powerful k motor?

what about someone adapting a set of 20V quads to a k!? that would be awesome!

sorry for drifting off the subject a little but im really excited now.

[oldcorollas]

delco ECU's need to be reprogrammed by Kalmaker... which used to be cheap, but now you need dongles etc, and is around $1K anyway.

i used the MS1 on my 4K and it was very easy to set up and tune. i will be using them on all my further projects until it can't do what i want. the only reason i would not use one was if i wanted coil on plug with 4 coils instead of waste spark.

i used 7KE injector which were around 195cc, 4AG starts around 210? but the normal toyota injectors don't fit in the 7K setup without fiddling... the rest of the 4AG is a bit useless... unless the TPS is variable type...even then, not much good.

the GSX550E bike (at least) has CV carbs with 30mm throat and almost perfect spacing for a K motor.. if i was going to do quads, i would start with them. i have some at home
20V start at 43mm, it is probably a bit big for a K motor. and the spacing is well out.

even just using a set of sidedraughts as TB's on a normal manifold (with injector bosses welded in) would be a great start.

anyone thought about machining holes in the head for injectors?