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    limmy 1st year Apprentice
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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    yeah think its gunna be a direct line to power the starter with a switch in the cab, only realy way i can thinkof it, i wouldnt mind still trying to find the nuetral starter switch? its the only thing i can think of that would of buggered up, therefore not starting it in any gear at all. locaed behing the dash maybe? have to have a look

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    Quote Originally Posted by limmy
    yeah think its gunna be a direct line to power the starter with a switch in the cab, only realy way i can thinkof it, i wouldnt mind still trying to find the nuetral starter switch? its the only thing i can think of that would of buggered up, therefore not starting it in any gear at all. locaed behing the dash maybe? have to have a look
    Hi Liam,sorry to hear that the Soarers playin up at the moment.
    If your running the A340 auto then the neutral safety switch should be located on the side of the box where your shifter rod is.
    Cheers Brett.

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    the battery might have dropped a cell.

    it would appear there is 12v but the battery is no longer capable of delivering the current drawn by the starter.
    hello

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    Does it even make the "tick" "tick" sound when u turn the key ?
    or does it just make no sound at all ?

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    it makes the tick tick sound as the relays are clicking when u turn the key. and no the battery hasnt dropped a cell, it turned over the starter easy so its not that, im wondering if the diagnosis will pick it up????

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    cheers brett

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    found out that it was the neutral switch on the gearbox that went, the plug is still ok so bridged that connection to bypass the switch, but now that car starts in any gear which is a little dodgy but it start which is the main thing i spose, gunna have to drop the gearbox out to replace it i think.

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    hey there mate, neutral start switches just bolt onto the side of the gearbox, easy thing to change....

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    Great to hear that it is now goin Liam.If by chance the MX62 Cressida neutral switch is the same,I have one here if it will help
    Cheers Brett.

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    Quote Originally Posted by limmy
    found out that it was the neutral switch on the gearbox that went, the plug is still ok so bridged that connection to bypass the switch, but now that car starts in any gear which is a little dodgy but it start which is the main thing i spose, gunna have to drop the gearbox out to replace it i think.
    He he he...... My Cressy dose that!

    its shockin when you forget to put it in park when you turn it off... I cant see that being a prob though cause you'd want it in park or nutral to cool the turbo down whne you stop.

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    Quote Originally Posted by crowncustom
    Great to hear that it is now goin Liam.If by chance the MX62 Cressida neutral switch is the same,I have one here if it will help
    Cheers Brett.

    he's got a spare box, it was in the other soarer.
    beer me!

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    No probs then.That was a bonus he got the auto with the other car.
    Cheers Brett.

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    ahh cheers guys, good to know people who have my back with parts n stuff, great bus just a shame that bit failed on me two days after getting is regoed, joecool was with me, and after frigging for ages it was just hopeless in the dark. i guess the next thing is trying to keep the bloody thing cool. its just not getting enough cold air, im gunna have to cut a hole in the front of it and make a air box. dunno need some better way of cooling it, everything is such a tight fit in the engine bay.

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    Quote Originally Posted by limmy
    ahh cheers guys, good to know people who have my back with parts n stuff, great bus just a shame that bit failed on me two days after getting is regoed, joecool was with me, and after frigging for ages it was just hopeless in the dark. i guess the next thing is trying to keep the bloody thing cool. its just not getting enough cold air, im gunna have to cut a hole in the front of it and make a air box. dunno need some better way of cooling it, everything is such a tight fit in the engine bay.
    Is it hot as in water or under bonnet temp.If its under bonnet temp then it is a typical M engine.The Cressy gets very hot under the bonnet.I know the old Crown wagon used to do the same also and most M powered beasts I've come across do the same.
    Cheers Brett.

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    Default Re: MZ21 won't start! help us, we're stranded :(

    the air intake is fine, with a stock airbox its tops, howevere with a pod its actually worse.

    make a box for it to keep all the engine bay heat out.

    as for the under bonnet heat, as has been said, 7M's run REALLY REALLY hot normally, nothing to be concerned about as long as you know the water system is all good, and wont bugger up causing the temp to skyrocket.

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