OST Dyno Day #2 - Held at XSpeed - 11th March

[JustCallMeOrlando]

PM us then.

[rob_85]

PM us too

[GeneSPIDA]

jut multiply it by the amount of wind being forced into the motor. ie, 2jzgte running 1.5 bar is 3 litres times 2.5, 4agte runing .5 bar is 1.6 times 1.5 does it make some sense?

Things start getting complicated if you start looking at who's running what boost, etc. But see what you mean.

I kind of didn't want to get too much into how the HP is produced such as boost level, injector sizes, intercooler, the list could go on. I'd class that as the "magic" everyone does to get what they want out of their car. Personally, the highest HP stuff favours the 6 cylinders, so I never expect to match them there. Which is why I thought a suggestion of HP/capacity might be interesting, but not if it gets too complicated.

Anyway, looks like Rob's got the 3 awards sorted. I just thought I'd make a suggestion, which I thought could be simple to even-out some of the engine size differences.

Still deciding whether I'll do it anyway. Might give it a miss with the cost of Whoop Ass and the Motorkhana stuff.

Gene

[Disturbed1]

why do u guys need any trophies so thatu can brag between ya mates. its not a contest is it? who cares how much boost they run inorder to achieve their power. if someones spent money on the internals yet gets penalised for running more boost whats the point. thats like having a quarter mile race and u saying - because your car weighs less and u were running more boost from a different brand turbo controlled buy a slightly better brand boost controller not to mention u have better wider tyres then me that equates to approx a 2 sec advantage therfore i technically won with a 14 seconds pass as compared to your 12.01. what a joke

[GeneSPIDA]

why do u guys need any trophies so thatu can brag between ya mates. its not a contest is it? who cares how much boost they run inorder to achieve their power. if someones spent money on the internals yet gets penalised for running more boost whats the point. thats like having a quarter mile race and u saying - because your car weighs less and u were running more boost from a different brand turbo controlled buy a slightly better brand boost controller not to mention u have better wider tyres then me that equates to approx a 2 sec advantage therfore i technically won with a 14 seconds pass as compared to your 12.01. what a joke

It's kind of a mute point now anyway, but I agree. Which is why I don't think boost pressure should be part of things. As you say, modified internals, etc. to be able to run the extra boost is, in my opinion, part of the "game" or "magic" as I said in my previous email.

Originally, just wanted to make a suggestion to give the smaller capacity engined cars something to aim for. Afterall, that's why it is quite normal for capacity classifications. There's only so much you can get out of a given engine. But sure, let's see how much raw HP the turbo sixes can produce - always impressive.

[_ShadowZ]

stick with rob's three.
When we get more people turning up we can start to worry about things like more trophies. I think the most we got to worry about at the moment is getting there. and sausage sizzles (of course)

[Alien]

lol im just doing it cos im curious

[CrUZida]

You'd need to do an NA trophy and a T trophy for a hp/L contest.

Even the most hypo NA would be struggling against a lazy T.

[GeneSPIDA]

You'd need to do an NA trophy and a T trophy for a hp/L contest.

Even the most hypo NA would be struggling against a lazy T.

Yeah, but the same applies for the plain old HP comparison too.

Don't worry, time to let this rest I reckon, and just go with the 3 decided.

[WA_TRD_83]

yeh gene, if you want i could put you on, damo is still a very big maybe, he hasnt got the new engine in soo another spot could be opened up

ahh.. but perhaps I'm not taking the Supra XX anymore.. and perhaps would like to run another car?..

Perhaps Matty & Lauren will know what i'm talking about, but perhaps they keep their mouths sealed for now..

Damo

[GeneSPIDA]

ahh.. but perhaps I'm not taking the Supra XX anymore.. and perhaps would like to run another car?..

Perhaps Matty & Lauren will know what i'm talking about, but perhaps they keep their mouths sealed for now..

Damo

Cool, go for it Damo. I don't think I can afford the extra money on top of the other play things I'm doing at the moment.

Maybe you're buying the TA22? Or have you got something more wicked up your sleeve?

[WA_TRD_83]

Maybe you're buying the TA22? Or have you got something more wicked up your sleeve?

hmmm.. maybe option (B) ..

Damo

[buck naked]

Just having these three categories would be enough for everyone to have a place:

Under 1.3 litre FI, Under 2 litre NA
Under 2 litre FI, Under 3 litre NA
Above 2 litre FI, Above 3 litre NA

All based on the FI = 150% calculation. The classes could be given names like Club, Sport and Open and the definitions could be broken down on the web page.

I'm interested in seeing something like this setup, not for trophies or any special award, but as a way of OST notating the history of their dyno days. As the club develops, I think it would be an interesting archive to keep on the website.

[GeneSPIDA]

Just having these three categories would be enough for everyone to have a place:

Under 1.3 litre FI, Under 2 litre NA
Under 2 litre FI, Under 3 litre NA
Above 2 litre FI, Above 3 litre NA

All based on the FI = 150% calculation. The classes could be given names like Club, Sport and Open and the definitions could be broken down on the web page.

I'm interested in seeing something like this setup, not for trophies or any special award, but as a way of OST notating the history of their dyno days. As the club develops, I think it would be an interesting archive to keep on the website.

Like you, I'd like to see some sub-classifications, whether it's for trophies or any special award doesn't phase me too much either. But seems I've opened a can of worms here

Just curious though...

I assume you've applied the 150% in coming up with the different capacities in your groupings? For example, a 1600cc turbo like mine and a 2500cc NA car would both be in the following as the NA car has already been compensated for here?

Under 2 litre FI, Under 3 litre NA

Or are you suggesting the 1600cc turbo is multiplied by 150% to come-up with it being treated as a 2.4L, putting it in the following?

Above 2 litre FI, Above 3 litre NA

I think the first case is OK, but the second would seem to double penalise the FI vehicles, so just checking on what you mean?

Gene

[buck naked]

Hey Gene,

I meant the first scenario, with the 150% pre-applied to the FI engines. They retain their displacement, but get moved up into the higher displacement NA category - no double penalty =)