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    the AE94 Corolla Wagons came with a 4AFE in FWD form and a 4WD gearbox, with a live rear end (it's actually a T-series - Open centre and 4x100PCD). From memory I think they have an electric clutch arrangement to lock the centre diff

    I have seen one with a 20V 4AGE instaled before, it would be quite a ncie car then. Otherwise they are slower than a nornal corolla, due to the extra weight and drivetrain loss.

    I'm not so sure they would be good for rallying - but I could be wrong.

    I would also shy away from putting a 1G into a RA series celica - as more than one person has said, it will make the car ineligible for anything more than club rallies. There's a bloke down at SDMA who has a RA65 that someone had put a 3SFE from a Camry into - He can't rally it in almost any class due to the engine swap - and it was still a 4Cyl engine.....

    I would suggest an AE71 or KE70 as they are plentiful, you can still find them at wreckers 9anything older is getting harder to find) and they don't attrack the 'Takumi Tax' that AE86s do. Plus shoehorning a nice 4AGE in there is easy and cheap.
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    for a laugh, you could probably pick up a cheapish mx73. Would be hilarious trying to man handle a land barge on the dirt.... atleast it has IRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyroo
    What about the 4WD corolla? I think its a station wagon?

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    Default Things that go BUMP in the night!

    Quote Originally Posted by brett_celicacoupe
    building a car is always half the fun i reckon
    The other half of the fun is DRIVING it!!



    1968 1600S powered by 8RB 1974.




    Corona GT 2L TC


    DEFINITELY NOT 4WD


    My 1967 Corona 1600S 4R engine sucessor to the ill fated mini




    T18 with 3TGTE circa 1984 prepped for rally.



    Corolla KE30 3KB engined Rally car Class A winner SAL 1976
    and the Service car GT Corona.


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    Default Re: Rally toyota?

    Yeah I think thats it,

    There isnt much info on them, but they seem to be cheap, they do however look like crap They are run of the mill corolla until the "wagon" part, which looks like it was glued on as an after thought.

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    I think the problem with the 4WD Rollas was the gearbox. There's no other box that you can put in there I think. And it just doesn't handle power/torque.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nark
    I think the problem with the 4WD Rollas was the gearbox. There's no other box that you can put in there I think. And it just doesn't handle power/torque.

    Yeah its the rear drive spline/worm I think they call them transfer cases?

    At least they are not like the minis gearbox and sump all in one with one oil to lubricate the lot.
    my Mini lasted less than a Year and died in the state forests of COTTER ACT in 1970.

    P51 gearbox and LSD in the Corona GT stuffed at 105,000 km.

    Everything in nature wears out!
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    Default The ultimate rally machine

    The ultimate Rolla




    Wes Nalder and Noel Richards in a 1300 CC 3KB engined Rolla London to Sydney in 3 weeks Class A winner 1976.

    Well before 3TGTE's.
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    Default Re: Rally toyota?

    I second the RT142, way more of them on the road than RA65s
    Go to any self serve wreckers and there's 3-4 to choose from.
    OR buy whole spare cars
    Corollas are smaller and probably a little more chuckable, better to get between the trees.
    But diffs and gearboxes are getting expensive, and they do cop it in a rally environment.

    Go the corona!

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    Default Re: Rally toyota?

    Puting the 22RE into an RA23 Celica (1975-1977).
    It's a direct bolt in (same mounts and gearbox) except for the following...
    - EFI fuel system (surge tank, pump, filter)
    - new exhaust sytem (use 22RE aftermarket manifold plus custom rear).

    The 22RE will also go into an RA40.
    Slightly heavier but you can bolt in the IRS from an SA63 or RA65 (the 2400 model).

    The RA6# is the heaviest of the lot.
    Toyota had good rally success with them but only by putting in the 3T-GTE 1800cc turbo (actually bored out to 2070cc for racing).

    If you are allowed turbos, then the TA22 (1970-1975) with the 3T-GTE is wonderful (180HP in 1000kg) and is also an almost direct bolt in to replace the old 2T engine.

    A bit harder to find parts for is the TE27 Corolla with 2T engine.
    It wasn't sold in Australi but it was sold in JApan and the US.
    Buy an Oz spec KE20/21/25 and upgrade to either the 2T-G twincam or the turbo 3T-GTE.
    The KE20 crossmember can be modified to suit the T series engines (I have specs on the 2 crossmembers) or you can buy (beg?) for a TE21/27 crossmember from the US.

    Simailr witht he KE3# and 4# series but they are a little heavier.

    The T-18 (aka TE72 Corolla) is also easy to upgrade to a 2T-G or 3T-GTE.

    - stepho

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    Default Re: Rally toyota?

    Oops, only read page 1 out of 3 on this thread.
    Sorry if I'm a bit a out of context.

    By the way, i believe it was RT104 who was the first one in Australia to put a 3T-GTE into a T-18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RT104GT


    Corona GT 2L TC
    The cool thing is, people are still running them

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