Turbo 5ME? (5MTE)

[RObErT_RaTh]

I don't think that to be true, or even possible without modifcation... my best output was 100rwkw and that motor is now puffing smoke from sad rings.

Stock 5MGE vs my 5ME with mods mine is putting out more power isn't it? What did you have done to your 5MGE?

[CrUZida]

Dyno graphs can be faked so easy (not saying yours is, just saying they can).

Best way to compare dyno's is with a back to back comparison.
Or go get a 1/4mi result for your car.

[RObErT_RaTh]

Okay, I'll see if I can borrow a g-tech from somewhere maybe and see what I can do. I'll also be getting another dyno run sometime over the next couple months so I'll let you know what that one shows aswell.

[Merudo]

He said 1/4mi. Not G-Tech!


Seriously, you believe those little wonderous black boxes that make any car at least a second quicker than it actually is?

[RObErT_RaTh]

He said 1/4mi. Not G-Tech!

It's better than me and a stopwatch mate, or is it? I'll get my mate to stopwatch me Maybe try a 0-100 instead?

[Yian]

Stock 5MGE vs my 5ME with mods mine is putting out more power isn't it? What did you have done to your 5MGE?

James had an open air box and mallet-loved extractors (I think?). And sad rings like he said.

We were jumping for joy when it cracked 100rwkw.

[Norbie]

The only real way to gauge your car's performance (in the straight-line sense) is on a proper 1/4-mile track, with the most important number being the trap speed.

I call bollocks on your 5M-E outperforming a stock 5M-GE. I don't care what the dyno said, chassis dyno's are notoriously inaccurate.

[RObErT_RaTh]

Alright, find out which is the most reputable dyno in SA and I'll get it re-dyno'd there after the other work is done. Why doesn't anyone believe me?

Does it help that the engine has done only around 200,000k?

[Joshstix]

Nobody believes your graph because it's claiming that your basically stock engine is making about 50% more power than the others of it's kind. Your dyno graph also shows that it is making damn close to the factory rated power at the rear wheels which doesn't happen.

I've seen a graph that showed a AWD 20V stock engine putting down well over 100awkw. I even saw the car do the run on the dyno, hell I was looking after punching in the cars details and printing the graphs. Do I believe it made that power? No way in hell, it was an anomoly. The dyno was wrong, whether it was user error or instrument error is another matter but the reading was simply incorrect.

[RObErT_RaTh]

Nobody believes your graph because it's claiming that your basically stock engine is making about 50% more power than the others of it's kind. Your dyno graph also shows that it is making damn close to the factory rated power at the rear wheels which doesn't happen.

I've seen a graph that showed a AWD 20V stock engine putting down well over 100awkw. I even saw the car do the run on the dyno, hell I was looking after punching in the cars details and printing the graphs. Do I believe it made that power? No way in hell, it was an anomoly. The dyno was wrong, whether it was user error or instrument error is another matter but the reading was simply incorrect.

Okay, here's the thing. The previous owner of the car 'spence' had the car dyno'd but it was awhile before I bought it (pre march 06) and it got 76rwkw. That was with stock air filter, extractors, 2.25" zorst and a hole in the intake resonator. I swapped the intake pipe for some straight through, got it serviced so new plugs oil and filter change etc etc and got it dyno tuned and the AFM adjusted and that's when it made 91rwkw.

If a stock 5me pulls roughly 65rwkw, i believe that one with an exhaust and extractors can make 76rwkw, how is that so hard to believe?

[CrUZida]

You don't pick up 15rwkw (or a 20% increase) from just a service and AFM tweak.

You may get up to 5rwkw, but not 15.

76rwkw from the 5M-E is believeable.

[RONA]

A stock 5me should put out more then 65rwkw, the rona put out 63.2rwkw (415,000kms, possible rings or valve stem seals issue and stock as a rock) at SAS and the 5me has another 400cc capacity.

Using a 30% drivetrain loss a stock 5me should put out 72-73rwkw (103kw at the flywheel). Not to mention Sean's 5me made 87rwkw at SAS and that was mainly extractors, zorst and a pod.

[RObErT_RaTh]

You don't pick up 15rwkw (or a 20% increase) from just a service and AFM tweak.

You may get up to 5rwkw, but not 15.

76rwkw from the 5M-E is believeable.

76rwkw was with a hole in the intake piping AFTER the afm. Hence why I was having troubles tuning it myself so I would expect that to have made a large difference.

Using a 30% drivetrain loss a stock 5me should put out 72-73rwkw (103kw at the flywheel). Not to mention Sean's 5me made 87rwkw at SAS and that was mainly extractors and a pod.

87 with extractors and pod, add exhaust and dyno after a fresh service and 91rwkw is more than doable. Thanks Rona

[CrUZida]

Hole in the intake piping after the AFM will make it run leaner.
This will make it produce more power.

[RObErT_RaTh]

Hole in the intake piping after the AFM will make it run leaner.
This will make it produce more power.

It had a hole in it because the extractors were to close to it. Tell me how sucking in a shitload of hot air is gonna make it run better? Especially since it smelt rich as all hell and blew black smoke when I took off hard.