Pics of S13 susp into AE86 and RA23 fitment

[oldcorollas]

not sure if the S13 bearings fit into S14 hub.. but people use the whole S14 spindle.. but it has a slightly different ball joint taper for the hub to the S13... although same basic size..
i spose that was to stop ppl sticking S14 hubs on S13's

however.. if the S13 BJ fits sigma arm, then S14 BJ will also fit sigma arm, and then you have the same basic swap, but with 5stud (or 4 stud is still an option with the S14)....
or you can get megaexpensive 5 stud hubs for S13 also..

either way, top work guys! the extra 20mm track of the smegma arm seems like a good option (to minimise it)

[Wezelton]

If you run the S13 hub mount, you can buy 5 stud hubs from justjap simple.

[EVOSTi]

good work guys, shame i need to spread the love.

jon, what happened to you attempting TS balljoints into the standard arms? i was looking forward to the results

[jonra23]

Evosti
Too much Positive camber, could probably have got it out with camber tops.
Also 40mm decrease in front track, could have corrected with rim offset but that would have changed scrub radius too much (i don't have or want power steering).

regards
Jon

[EVOSTi]

neg camber? i thought with the track decrease you might get pos camber. did you actually get the balljoints or did you just dummy it up on the standard one?
i might still look into it depending on how much thread i have on my rose joints, but im guessing probably not enough to account for 40mm

[jonra23]

Sorry my bad Positive camber editing post.
Just dummied up on standard ball joint, didn't end up finding one to fit standard LCA and S13, Hen and Rallystanza obviously have though.
That is 20mm per side.

[mongrel]

has anybody tryed turbo a31 cefiro, it's pretty much a five stud s13 hub

[oldcorollas]

how pretty much???
i could get my hands on one, but only if it was going to be close enough to be worth it..

A32??
http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m34106563

http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r29412606

[jonra23]

A31 is a four stud, some of the bits I used to fit up were off my sons A31, they are basicaly a 4 door s13.

regards
jon

[MR 1JZ]

A31 is a four stud, some of the bits I used to fit up were off my sons A31, they are basicaly a 4 door s13.

regards
jon

agreed

all S13 chassis cars 180sx/Silvia S13/Cifero and Laurel are 4 stud factory, R33 front hubs cannt be used but S14 front hubs are a direct replacement and they are five stud, also the massive S14 brakes bolt right up too

R33 stuff can only be used in the rear

[jonra23]

Son has R32GTR brakes all round, just a mater of drilling discs to suit 4 stud pattern and calipers bolt straight up.

regards
jon

[Hen]

Jez and I were also working on brakes for this. Using R32 GTS-t calipers and a redrilled R32 disc everything fitted up perfectly. Also I have helped fit R33 calipers and an undrilled 4 stud disc to an S13. I can't remember what the disc is (maybe NA R33 4door) but I'll try and find out.

So I don't think there is a need to go to 5 stud for brakes, however for wheels/other reasons it doesn't look hard to do.

I'm sure sifting through NS.com would answer any questions about the swap.

Hen

[MR 1JZ]

15" decent offset/width is hard enough to find in 4 stud let alone 5 stud...

[jonra23]

Main advantage with 5 stud is gives you the choice of all the ford stud pattern rims.
As mentioned earlier in this thread JustJap does a kit for 5 stud on to a s13 spindle .

regards
jon

[MR 1JZ]

Main advantage with 5 stud is gives you the choice of all the ford stud pattern rims.
As mentioned earlier in this thread JustJap does a kit for 5 stud on to a s13 spindle .

regards
jon

yeah I know that...but the smallest ford falcon wheel is a 16" steelie...the good wheels are all 17 and 18" and 17" on a sprinter...

yuck