Microtech Or Autronic???

[Joshstix]

so would i be able to use one of these when i EFI my 302 windsor? and then again when i supercharge it?

thanks
Blake

What kind of supercharger are you planning on running? If you're talking nice bogan 6/71 roots sitting up on top of the intake manifold then it might not be the best option. The massive intake temps can be a real issue with some EFI computers from what I hear. If you're planning on running an intercooled blown setup than the world is your oyster and the advice is still the same as for anyone else buying programmable management, find a tuner you trust to tune it and buy the system he thinks will best suit the application.

[off-road]

I am interested to know why people are shit canning Ray Hall. I have always found him helpful on Autronic matters and turbocharger matters and have even rung him while the race car was on the dyno and he was more than happy to help.
I did not buy my sm2 off him but he was happy to sell me a manual.

[TurboRA28]

Hmm what I would like to say about him I don't think would be allowed on a public forum.

He needs to seriously invest in customer relation skills and how to run a business.

[The Witzl]

Hmm what I would like to say about him I don't think would be allowed on a public forum.

He needs to seriously invest in customer relation skills and how to run a business.

And accurately quote the features of the product he is trying to sell....

[Robbos_Toyotas]

What kind of supercharger are you planning on running? If you're talking nice bogan 6/71 roots sitting up on top of the intake manifold then it might not be the best option. The massive intake temps can be a real issue with some EFI computers from what I hear. If you're planning on running an intercooled blown setup than the world is your oyster and the advice is still the same as for anyone else buying programmable management, find a tuner you trust to tune it and buy the system he thinks will best suit the application.

No ill be using a larger style vortech centrificual blower with a large water to air cooler.

[JZA70T]

so your posting information on an assumption then.


my car has been tuned 4 times in 2 years, because i have changed things around 4 times. they are the facts. like most people who change things to get the most out of these changes you tune it to the new setup, which would happen whether a vehicle is microtech, autronic, wolf or EMS ecu'd

i wasnt getting personal, i was pointing out what you said was stupid and gave an example

I see the usual:
your car will be faster with microtech and you will make more power with microtech
has not been used yet,

is this because the fastest member of this forum and the member whose car makes the most power both use Autronic?

[sideshow]

microtechs are faster because they weigh a touch less than an autronic so saving u some weigh
hehehe

oth ecus are good but if the engine is a specialised or has alot of functions then go the autronic

i wire up everything from microtechs ems wolf haltech autronic motec etc etc
microtechs are best for ease and never have probs

motec autronic haltech u always have to spend atleast 2 to 4 hours muchin round with the program to get it to start and idle ok unless u have a prog from similar setup engine

i did an autronic awhile ago with an msd dis 4 and im gettin shit spark
so im stuck on it for awhile

shit like this always happens on ecus which can do alot cause the setup is a pain

with microtech if u have ordered it correctly to suit yr engine and ignition system then u usually get a start first go

[Billzilla]

microtechs are best for ease and never have probs

Really?
I bought two in the 90's and both failed, one after about seven years the other after maybe six months. Microtech weren't the slightest bit interested in helping fix them. The second one had some of the wires in the loom in the wrong place, it took us quite a while to work that out. Again, when we told them they weren't the slightest bit interested.
Never ever touching one again.

[6_SPEED]

microtechs are faster because they weigh a touch less than an autronic so saving u some weigh
hehehe

you are probably right there

I found that the ribbed case of the microtech when placed upsidedown makes for a really good tyre chock.

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[1JZ.747]

I see the usual:
your car will be faster with microtech and you will make more power with microtech
has not been used yet,

is this because the fastest member of this forum and the member whose car makes the most power both use Autronic?

keep digging.

[The Witzl]

you are probably right there

I found that the ribbed case of the microtech when placed upsidedown makes for a really good tyre chock.

HAHAHAH!!! I'll try that next time!

I will say that from an electronics nerd's point of view, the internal construction of the microtech is a little rough. The way that the FETs are arranged to mount to the heatsink (case) is a little sub-par in my opinion. It's no wonder the old "x" series ecus (with the internal ignitors) were known to fry themselves - the FETs are just pushed up against the case.

Any electronics constructor would know that a transistor should be BOLTED to a heatsink and heatsink paste used so that thermal conductivity is kept to a maximum - especially in the case of high voltage/high current output FETs like those used for injector drivers, PWM switches etc.


The construction of an Autronic is a work of art. I drool at the Milspec connector they use.

[kingmick]

Yes i have the mil spec and the gold pins on my SM2 and it makes it easy to have an engine harness go to the firewall and another for the computer and inside connections etc! its nice stuff but not cheap.

[6_SPEED]

I will say that from an electronics nerd's point of view, the internal construction of the microtech is a little rough. The way that the FETs are arranged to mount to the heatsink (case) is a little sub-par in my opinion. It's no wonder the old "x" series ecus (with the internal ignitors) were known to fry themselves - the FETs are just pushed up against the case.

Any electronics constructor would know that a transistor should be BOLTED to a heatsink and heatsink paste used so that thermal conductivity is kept to a maximum - especially in the case of high voltage/high current output FETs like those used for injector drivers, PWM switches etc.

The construction of an Autronic is a work of art. I drool at the Milspec connector they use.

The cheap arse way that a microtech is constructed is why they are predominantly not used in offroad racing, they rattle themselves to pieces.

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[kingmick]

I see the usual:
your car will be faster with microtech and you will make more power with microtech
has not been used yet,

is this because the fastest member of this forum and the member whose car makes the most power both use Autronic?

How do you figure that? lmao i only just noticed this post! Your kidding right?

[1JZ.747]

The cheap arse way that a microtech is constructed is why they are predominantly not used in offroad racing, they rattle themselves to pieces.

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its certainly bash microtech week isnt it........

i was talking to sean today, (supercrown) and he pretty well sumed it up. for your normal person who has a car that competes in the odd bit of motor sport and is driven on the street like most of the people on this forum any ecu be it autronic, microtech, EMS etc will do the job in the hands of the right tuner. sean, having an autronic on his crown said most people dont really have the need for all the extras the SM4 offers unless they are racing in V8 super cars or the top level of motorsport, which last time i read, not to many people on this forum race in.

feel free to keep bashing the microtech product, the current product offerings are good units and there are plenty of happy owners, which i am one of and i will continue to use the product whilst ever i am involved in motorsport.