2JZGE costs involved?

[orestes]

Hey guys, just trying to get a rough idea on what it would cost to get my hands on a late model 2JZGE front cut, or if anyone does one for a reasonable price for that matter, and where i could get one from...

reason being is that I want to source a VVTi 2JZGE to put in my Z10 Soarer, but if it's going to cost an arm and a leg just to get my hands on an engine I may just settle for a non VVT engine

[barned01]

here ya go.
surely one of these suppliers should be able to give you the ins and outs on prices and availability.

rep toobs for this list it's gold
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=643

[gianttomato]

Just Jap in Kirrawee (Sydney) have a VVTi halfcut.

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and i have a itb amnifold for one

[CrUZida]

VVTi 2JZGE's dont have a fuel return line.

That in itself could be a complete headfuck to get going.



Have a gander of this too.
http://www.norbie.net/ifli4u/

[gianttomato]

Swap with older setup ftw.

OR

Just get the fuel pump with internal regulator from *fuck knows where* and fit that to your own fuel tank.

and i have a itb manifold for one

Has Viper nipplex contacted you about this yet?

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nup.......

[CrUZida]

Swapping with older setup may cause AFR issues.
Who knows what magical devices they managed to use on these motors.



Off Topic, GT, how much to bring a 2JZGE from the states?
I can get one nice and cheap.

[gianttomato]

It'd want to be free. Freight is a killer.

[orestes]

none of this would mater I assume unless you're going to run the stock engine managment.. then you'd need the fuel pump as well from the same car... but you could just run it with a regulator and then run an adaptronic setup and later upgrade to a 6 throttle setup

[CrUZida]

If you plan to use the VVTi you are going to have to go with Autronic or MoTeC, which will seriously throw out the budget. And then I'd be looking at using a 1UZ, and spending the extra money on either engine mods, or the rest of the car.


And GT, its close enough to free to make killer freight almost worth it.
Unless its uber killer freight.

[takai]

Out of curiosity how much do non-VVTi 2JZGEs go for these days?

[orestes]

If you plan to use the VVTi you are going to have to go with Autronic or MoTeC, which will seriously throw out the budget. And then I'd be looking at using a 1UZ, and spending the extra money on either engine mods, or the rest of the car.


And GT, its close enough to free to make killer freight almost worth it.
Unless its uber killer freight.

hmmm... I think VVTi might get thrown out the window, and there's no way I want to go 1UZ at all. non VVTi engines make about the same power anyway so theres not a huge gain with it other then just saying the vtec just kicked in yo

[CrUZida]

What stopping you going 1UZ?
Insurance? (that seems to be the main killer)

[JustCallMeOrlando]

To be honest, if you're going to be ditching the vvti, I'd be just getting a non-vvti version and pocket the difference. The benefits don't really justify the price increase given you're disabling it's most important difference. Having driven a 2JZGE MA61 Supra, I can't see the normal 2JZGE not being a blast in a Z10.

[ViPeR_NiPPleX]

Out of curiosity how much do non-VVTi 2JZGEs go for these days?

im paying 1k for one, ecu/loom/exhuast

[JustCallMeOrlando]

What stopping you going 1UZ?
Insurance? (that seems to be the main killer)

I would've thought the main killer would be a manual conversion.

[orestes]

To be honest, if you're going to be ditching the vvti, I'd be just getting a non-vvti version and pocket the difference. The benefits don't really justify the price increase given you're disabling it's most important difference. Having driven a 2JZGE MA61 Supra, I can't see the normal 2JZGE not being a blast in a Z10.

thats what i meant... i'll just pick up a non VVTi engine and be done with it. As for a 1JZGTE i've seen how ridiculous that is in a Z10 and i really don't wanna kill myself... 220hp odd should be a pretty big kick in the pants anyway in an 1100kg car... plus the insurance benifits would be good... 1UZ well i don't wanna go to an 8

[CrUZida]

Oh, and I didn't make my last post clear.

It should have read,
If you decide to go for an aftermarket ecu and plan to use the VVTi, then you'll have to go with Autronic or MoTeC.


You can by all means stick with the factory ecu after you have solved the fuel delivery issues.

[gianttomato]

And GT, its close enough to free to make killer freight almost worth it.
Unless its uber killer freight.

Surely you can get a non VVTi 2JZGE for less than $1000 in your part of the world?

As for VVTi, stick with factory fuelling and ECU. That said, you could probably get a 1UZ and assorted manual bits for less than a VVTi 2JZ....