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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    has any one ever cc the combustion chamber of the head while its been apart? id be curious to see where its at

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    If I remember correctly it is 70cc. Witzl will confirm, his brain is younger than mine (prolly sharper too).
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    yep, 70cc or 71cc

    you've got my green book with that written in it IIRC jason
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    what model head was that? did you happen to cc the block as well?? and if so what pistons were used?

    thanks, now i have something to compare to when the time comes!!
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    that's a stock 88250 head which had just been rebuild.
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Guys, does anyone happen to have a photo of the exhaust side of an 18RG and 18RC head?

    I am heading out to check a set of extractors that "may" be for an 18RG and I was just looking for some reference material. Unless anyone knows an obvious way of determining the difference between 18RC and 18RG extractors.

    I know 18RC has the inlet manifold above the exhaust manifold but that isn't going to help that much.

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Port spacing is pretty different so you shouldn't have a problem telling them apart.

    Code:
    18R-G:  O       O       O       O
    
    18R-C:  O          O O          O

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    Thanks Norbie, you are a god. +rep for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by YelloRolla
    If I remember correctly it is 70cc. Witzl will confirm, his brain is younger than mine (prolly sharper too).
    When we measured the 88251 and 88270 heads, they both came out to an average of 72ml on the dot.
    Maybe that's one more way that they dropped the compression on the later models.
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    great work karl and steve... you guys didnt happen to cc the blocks as well

    when my motor is apart i'll be sure to cc my block with the 22r/e pistons as a comparison

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    If you know which head you have (wither the 70cc or the 72cc) and you know the Comp Ratio of the engine, go to this site
    http://users.erols.com/srweiss/calccr.htm
    and type in the fields that you know it will then tell you what the dome = in cc

    Don't miss the bit at the beginning where you place a 2 in to convert to metric.
    YelloRolla's KE20 1/4mi = 11.32 @ 119mph @ 22psi on slicks
    12.44 @ 113 mph on 165 wide street tyres
    210rwkw - not bad for a smelly 3TGTE running pump fuel.

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Quote Originally Posted by scootaphill
    ... you guys didnt happen to cc the blocks as well
    Nope, there wasn't much point as there was no deck clearance.
    I use the calculators from this guy, I've mod'd them a little, but find them most useful.
    I changed the dish volume to dome volume and swapped the +/- symbols.

    http://www.superjamie.net/garage/

    Plus, down the bottom is a link to great picture of a KE35 4WD.
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Well just a little more info to push this thread back into life

    Toyota Genuine Head Gasket, 18R-G, (p/n not known yet), $59.00 retail, available in Australian warehouses.


    Ingram Alternator P/N RXA-430 is a close fit high output replacement for 18R's
    ... it's 80A, from a landcruiser with 3F engine, internally regulated. YOu just have to change the pulley to a "1A" style and use washers to fill the extra space in the pivot feet spacing.
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Just for reference sake... here's my clutch fan setup in my car, as it is right now

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    Hi,

    You gonna put a fan shroud around it?

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    hello ppl, i'm back

    i went to cliffs house the other day and drooled for a ges at his '28, it uses the GENUINE 18RG crank, 16R rods, 22r coaster pistons which have been flycut.
    The crank has been fully welded and offset ground to give 3.5mm extra stroke, it is back to original journal size too, so it can be ground down if necessary too.
    JZX83+ FMIC+ Twin 2.5" dumps to 3"+ FCD+ 2800rpm stallie+ 14psi - LSD - good tyres = 12.85 @105.58

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    hi all,
    i think i may have asked this question before: i have some 18rg stuff, sum of the following i need to no if anyone can help me out of sourcing the parts to complete the engine:
    -head no. 1- 88250
    -head no. 2- 88210
    -inlet 88230
    -exhaust 88251
    -cams no.1 88258
    -cams no.2 have sprocket 88210
    can anyone help me out on the best build and does anyone have the parts to build a complete engine
    thanks to any help received leroy

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Quote Originally Posted by The Witzl
    WOW!!! I just scored from ebay a freaken awesome TRD and performance book for Toyotas.... including HEAPS of TRD part numbers and bits for 18RG engines

    I'll be posting numbers soon
    come on karl where are they if i had any rep power i would neg rep you just for teasing us all LOL

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Hi,

    Here's some nice diagrams of the wonderful and dependable 18R-G. I made the images big so you can see them better. This is the 1st of 2 posts, due to the 10-image per-post limit.

    Overview


    Cylinder Head


    Cylinder Block


    Gaskets


    Cylinder Head & Cover


    Clylinder Block & Oil Pan


    Timing Cover & Rear-end Plate


    A few more images in the next post.....

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Hi,

    I'm baaaaaaaack. As stated, here's the 2nd post of 2 with a few more diagrams of the venerable 18RG.....

    Mounting


    Crankshaft & Pistons


    Camshaft & Valves


    Timing Chain & Damper


    I got more stuff for the 18RG, including inlet, exhaust, carbies, cooling system, starter and alternator. So, if there's anything you want put up please let me know.

    I may have some stuff on the 18RGU/18RGUE engines, but I'll get back to you on that tomorrow sometime when I get a chance to check my stuff.

    Oh, got all the same stuff for the T, 2T, 2TB, 2TG, 18R and 18RE engines - but as this is ostensibly and 18RG thread I kept them out.

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