5 stud on the front 4 stud on the rear.

[joecoolmk2]

well, yeah maybe i spose, but a lot of 4WDs have a front axle. it might also just mean a FWD axle.

[joecoolmk2]

it wouldn't be a dangerous thing to do anyway, unless you're putting 4 stud pattern on a big 4WD...

[CrUZida]

well, yeah maybe i spose, but a lot of 4WDs have a front axle. it might also just mean a FWD axle.

Every 4 wheel car has a front axle, and a rear axle dude.

Just because they aren't connect doesn't mean they aren't an axle.

[oldcorollas]

front OR rear axle.

i think it is clearly written in technical terms.

otherwise they would have said
"all rims fitted to a vehicle"
or
"rims fitted to a front AND rear axle"

[joecoolmk2]

further proving i'm actually right! thanks cruz.

anyways, why would you WANT to? it means you can't rotate the tyres without taking them off the wheels(assuming they're the same width).

i think you should keep them all the same to keep it easy.

[CrUZida]

anyways, why would you WANT to? it means you can't rotate the tyres without taking them off the wheels(assuming they're the same width).

I don't know anyone with a performance setup who runs the same width/offset rims front and rear.

[CrUZida]

further proving i'm actually right! thanks cruz.

What? I've only seen people prove you wrong here...

[joecoolmk2]

okay i think cruz may be right now sorry.

if you rang them and they said per axle then it's okay.

some reason, i still think it's silly

p.s. the council is the same, ring up and one person says ok, then ring up again and get a different person and they'll say no!

[CrUZida]

I spoke to the person that DOTARS told me to talk to, he was part of the review board for the NCOP.

[CrUZida]

Found it!

I have a clarification question regarding “NCOP11 – Tyres/Rims/Suspension/Steering”


On page 17, under “Wheel Sizes and Axles” is states

“All rims fitting to a front axle or a rear axle must be of the same diameter, offset, width and mounting configuration (except for spare wheels used in an emergency situation)”

Does this mean that all 4 rims have to be identical, or that you can run different widths/offsets on the rear compared to the front, as long as the 2 fronts are the same, and the 2 rears are the same?

With respect to your interpretation, the later is correct. The two front must be the same and the two back must be the same in terms of offset, width and mounting. The diference from front to rear must not exceed 70% in tyre width.

[MR22ZZ]

well and good, but to answer the 4-5 stud question...



note the last sentence...

[CrUZida]

Its not a modification, its a replacement.

He's not taking a 4 stud hub to his machinist, and getting it machined/welded to become 5 studs, that would be highly illegal.

He is replacing a 4 stud hub with a 5 stud hub.



Plenty of us have done it.

I'm in the process of doing it to my MZ10 Soarer, I can think of 3 other people who have done it to MA61 Supra's, and the number of S13 Silvia's its been done to is countless.

All done with off-the-shelf unmodified factory parts.

[vanman]

I can confirm that in qld you can have different wheels front/rear, as long as fronts match, and rears match - no need to match front/back, only side/side. got this from a cop when I had some mismatched burnout wheels on a t18. after checking they matched, and were legal, he couldn't book me :-) (note : pre anti-hoon laws)

last sentence from quote above - I know this applies in qld to at least meaning you can't file down calipers, steering arms etc to prevent replacement wheels scrubbing. If you use an unmodified hub (i.e. hoppers replacement kit), are you really breaching this though?

cheers
vanman

[monkeymajik]

Re: the different stud pattern combo's from front to rear.

Is this a recent thing? I enquired about this a few years ago and was told it was a no-go.

Glad to see it's okay now though, as I couldnt see any real reason for it to be illegal as long as it's done properly.

[oldcorollas]

the last part says that they all have to be the same.

front OR rear axle.
i think it is clearly written in technical terms.
otherwise they would have said
"all rims fitted to a vehicle"
or
"rims fitted to a front AND rear axle"

further proving i'm actually right! thanks cruz.
.

i can't follow the logic

as for modifying part to fit rims... i suppose it is open to some interpretation, but what they mean is what vanman said. you can't MODIFY PARTS.. ie,. you can't grind and thus weaken parts to make rims fit.

it doesn't preclude altering steering and suspension for purposes other than making rims fit ie, you can still alter your parts and geometry according to the section on steering and suspension, but wording it this way is to stop Bodgy Bro's from hacking bits to fit their chromies