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    Cool The Olde 1uz hilux trick - just a few questions

    Hi Guys,

    Just started my 1UZ hilux project and i am having a lot of conflicting information, have read countless posts and just would like some friendly input.

    i have the following:

    RN85 2WD hilux
    G52 glass-box
    CRS bellhousing
    1uz ex UZZ31 soarer

    now what i would like to know is, is it possible to use the rear sump and just notch the front for the steering? a few people seem to think so but some do not...
    i am aware i have to remote mount the oil filter
    and do the castlemain rod shop mounts and transmount work on the manual? i dont see why they wont, it just looks like it will move the box forward a bit.

    now IF i need to use a front sump... does anyone have one?

    any help would be great

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    Default Re: The Olde 1uz hilux trick - just a few questions

    I've mainly done the conversions into 4WD Hiluxes/Surfs with two on the go at the moment and the majority of those are IFS so need the front sump to clear the front diff and it's mounts and these require the sump bowls to be notched to clear the steering, tho in my case that's an excuse to increase the oil capacity which aids in cooling and avoids any issues while you're off road. So in this case depending on the "Notch" you shouldn't loose too much capacity but the best advice here which is also something that I still do out of habit even after doing a few is to drop the steering out and trial fit the engine/box. This way you can make any adjustments needed to the engine mounts to get the engine in the right position and maintain the original driveline angles (For this reason I've always made my own engine mount brackets to suit each conversion). Then trial fit the steering to see just what needs to be done to the sump, this may add extra time/effort but is the best way for a good result.

    Also with the exception of the 3 litre diesel to 1UZ and 3.0 V6 with the RN and LN models I've never moved the gearbox from it's standard location. Unlike the 4WDs which when you use the correct oil filter housing and filter due to the shape of the chassis and front suspension design of the 2WD models you can't avoid the remote mount filter.

    Where in WA are you? We may have to talk as you have a part that I want and I have an item here which while I'd recommend stripping it for inspection as it has been sitting out the back of the house for a while in the weather would be a whole lot better for you behind the UZ than a G52 (read 2002 2WD Hilux W series box) which you can have in exchange for this one little part. I also have all of the factory engine wiring diagrams for the UZZ31 Soarer engines which you're welcome to a copy of.

    You will also need an LS400 fan idler, you can get these from Veale autoparts for about $220 use a UZJ100 Landcruiser fan idler pulley with this (about $80 from Toyota) as this deletes the hydrofan pump, the stock ECU has no problems with this as on the Soarer the hydrofan runs its own separate module. The Soarer ECU like most UZ ECUs will happily run the engine with no auto there, just join the NSW wires hook up the reverse lamps and remove the rest of the wiring. Another tip is a V6 or 4Cyl petrol 4runner instrument cluster as this will take care of the Vehicle speed sensor.

    Let me know if you want any Surf bits to bling it up with. You doing a single cab or dual cab?
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    Default Re: The Olde 1uz hilux trick - just a few questions

    cheers for all the info, wiring is no issue, I do a lot of jz conversions, and most efi Toyota engines use the same principal
    yeah I'm.aware of the tacho as it only reads one igniter. I have sent you a pm

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    Default Re: The Olde 1uz hilux trick - just a few questions

    so anyone got a front sump?

    will trade whole engine even! (mine has just over 100k on the clock and run well before i removed it) i also have a dummy engine that has the crown mid sump.
    im actually getting to the point of buying another whole front sump engine engine as i can not find a front sump!

    i have also realized my car uses an electric speedo (winnng)

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    Default Re: The Olde 1uz hilux trick - just a few questions

    SO anyway...

    After lots of drinking, making mess and swearing at it I have done the following:

    Changed over to front sump and "notched" the rear of the oil pan
    Bought CRS mounts
    put LS400 idler on
    Relocated the oil filter
    Wired it all up
    Gearbox is in
    Dummy Trans mount made (until I get around to making a proper one)


    now all is going really well except ONE thing...

    the steering is touching the sump. it is not possible to cut the sump any higher than what I have.
    I am using the stock engine rubbers from the 22R - is there any alternatives that would lift it up a little?

    I have sat and scratched my head and I cant work it out.

    Anyone else have this problem as well?

    I am so close to its first start and this is annoying me. Cheers guys.

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    Default Re: The Olde 1uz hilux trick - just a few questions

    I should probably come and take a look to see what you have with the "Mark one eyeball" as that works a lot better than trying to work things out over the web. Gotta get mine from the exhaust shop on Sat so that is out and working metro now so should be able to do a Sunday
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    Default Re: The Olde 1uz hilux trick - just a few questions

    yeah sounds good mate. im just going to continue with other things such as fuel system and cooling.

    did you still have that w56 box? i have put the g52 in but i dont think its going to live very long...

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