ca18det into a ta22

[o_man_ra23]

I like pure toyota... didnt say retrotech was a bad thing tho. So yeah, 3SGTE being a Toyota mota, well thats about as pure as it gets. Theres a nissan forum just a google search away, they will be happy to help you put a CA18 in.

And Jeffro... Wanklers go sooo much better in 323 frogmobiles

Cheers, Owen

[skiddz]

skidz; are you only guessing that the tranny tunnel will need tubbing, or do you know this for a fact. As oldrollas said earlier, the tunnel should be alright as people put W5X's in ta22's.

nope i do actually know, i have measured one, the s13 box is alot bigger than all of the w5x boxes, shifter would have to be moved back about 100mm abd then ud have to move the handbrake back a bit, probably not worth it with the amount of work needed to be done.

[oldcorollas]

hmm. so how does the TA2 and AE8 tunnels compare, sinc eppl have put CA18 and SR20 into the spoontahs.. how much effort needed there?

[Bananaman]

Theres a nissan forum just a google search away, they will be happy to help you put a CA18 in.

I don't see the need for an attitude like this - when it boils down to it, each to their own applies. Its his car to do what he likes with it, I'm not sure why its your place to tell him what he can and can't do, nor make him feel unwelcome.

I think its important as an enthusiast to have an appreciation for all things that deserve it. Sure, putting a nissan motor in a toyota isn't ideal - but if it runs well, produces solid results, and most importantly - hes happy, then that deserves respect, whether its toyota, bitsamissin, or mitsushitty. No use being narrow minded, things can be learnt or gained from the enemy at times

[Grega]

hmm. so how does the TA2 and AE8 tunnels compare, sinc eppl have put CA18 and SR20 into the spoontahs.. how much effort needed there?

i've seen an SR20 in a KE55 some years ago and no tunnel mods needed (from what I was told)

very bloody quick though as suspected.

[myne]

hmm. so how does the TA2 and AE8 tunnels compare, sinc eppl have put CA18 and SR20 into the spoontahs.. how much effort needed there?

Well the AE82 tunnel wont support it
The ae86, since it uses the same gearbox more or less to the ta22 should be no probs

[Bananaman]

Well the AE82 tunnel wont support it
The ae86, since it uses the same gearbox more or less to the ta22 should be no probs

I was about to say that, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they have as much breathing space around the box, just because both use a T50 variant?

[myne]

yeah, but you can deduce that if someone's put a CA18 box into an 86, it's more than likely going to fit in a ta22.

[Dimitri]

They are cheap and strong, sounds like a great idea to me.

I'd take a CA18 over a SR20 any day too....

why?

on paper maybe from an engineering point of view. but in reality.. the donk's fucking suck.

theyre cheap. but theyre not strong.

srs are newer, make more power stock, and have all the power handling youd ever need in light old toyota. plus aftermarket support. i know people love to hate the SR. but really nothing beats it for powering a a small rwd car.

[Bananaman]

Why are you of the opinion they aren't strong? While the alloy block of the SR may be lighter (although i here the long block weight including accessories is the same as the CA) - i was under the assumption that the CA would therefore be stronger.

I'm not seeking to bite your head off here, both motors are good in my books. My decision was made for me anyway because sr20 isn't legal in my car, but even so the CA is better bang for buck.

Perhaps we should have the age old sr vs. ca debate elsewhere

[sebatron]

If you're gonna build up a motor, it'll make a little difference in the end pricewise between the SR and the CA. CA's don't need as much valvetrain mods for revs, cause they weren't designed for trucks.

SR's are between 20-35kg heavier (i can't remember ) than CA's, despite the CA being iron block. to get them strong enough, they had to keep adding more and more alloy... and it's all gay.

CAs are good. Easier for engineering on light cars. I've got a CA in my datto 1600.

a nice advantage of CA's is their price. Halfcuts are quite affordable.

i'd love a CA in a TA22. i'd be fairly tempted to give a worked 1UZ a shot though, but that's me, and i wouldn't mind a change

[LeeRoy]

This is not a founded statement but isn't there alot more 'bolt on' upgrades for sr's?

[kugzs]

thanks for all the discussion guys.
not really interested in a sr20 purely because of price.

Can someone confirm that a ca18 box will/wont fit in the ta22 tunnel.

If not, what about the RB20 box. I believe this box is shorter (know as 'stumpy') and i have seen it used it dattos.

cheers
josh

[sebatron]

massaging a gearbox tunnel isn't as drastic as it sounds. in my datto, the shifter was moved back a fair bit, so a section was replaced with some decent steel plating .

i reckon it'd fit, but i've got no basis for that statement

["Z" UTE]

kugz, the CA18 manual box would be a shoe in, for a TA22 tunnel. It fitted my neighbours KE20, with only a couple mallet blows. The major problem in the KE20, was the gearlever position, a long way back!!!. Nothing a shortened handbrake lever didn't cure!!
Of course the shifter hole in the tunnel had to be relocated.
If doing an auto, a piece of cake, just shorten the linkage from selector to gearlever.

cheers Chuck