ca18det into a ta22

[kugzs]

so in conclusion, although the gearbox may not fit in perfectly, it won't be too hard or expensive to get in there.

any information on whether or not a rack and pinion conversion would be a necessity?

[Bananaman]

This is not a founded statement but isn't there alot more 'bolt on' upgrades for sr's?

Theres still plenty of gear for the CA, plenty of people have them and work on them. Not as much as the SR maybe, but certainly no shortage.

As far as turbos go, they both use the T25/T28 flange.

Personally, i've enjoyed working on it - many little things in the design have made me think "yeah, thats smart". Just little things like the timing belt tensioner, etc. Maybe its just that i've never got down and dirty with a newer engine much, except for the ED falcon i had (no prize for guessing what i had to fix on that ).

Only word of advice i have so far is to not try and get the crank timing sprocket off unless you really need to - i ended up having to drill and tap two holes in it, and use a puller on the bolts i put in it. You cant get a puller behind it, and more than likely levering it with a screwdriver will do approximately nothing other than screw up other things

[poorolla]

For the record, the RB20 gearbox isn't what is referred to as the 'stumpy skyline box'.
The 'stumpy' is the gearbox out of an R30 Skyline (L24 engines i think)
To use the 'stumpy' box you will also need a CA bellhousing from either a CA20 powered bluebird or any CA18DET box.. With some CA bellhousings i believe the front bearing on the input shaft needs to be swapped over as well, more info on this can be found on the datsun websites..
The stumpy boxes are by no means as strong as an RB20 box, but are good in situations where size is a big restriction.
Hope this helps someone..

[Baref00t]

Making a purchase for the project, and was wondering if anyone knows anything about 5 speed manual pintara boxes, on a CA18DET, will it fit in the space available in my TA22? Also, are they strong?

[o_man_ra23]

W58 FTW... and they fit too.

Oh, thats right, you got poo nissan stuff... oh well, bit of custom work. Check around the Nissan forums to find out how they perform.

Cheers, Owen

[Grega]

my mate had an r31 CA20E pintara for years and used to thrash the living shit out of it everywhere - he never had an issue with the gearbox and it copped some abuse.
whether it would live behind the additional torque/power of a ca18det would remain to be seen.

best for the nissan forums this question methinks.

[MZ20_drifter]

sr20det have alot more torque
first time i drove a mates ca18det he told me to shift at 8,000rpm. they don't have much torque but they rev freely

[Baref00t]

Thanks heaps for your comments, guys! Especially your kindness in the face of another Celica being polluted with Nissan products...

Big fan of your work, will keep you posted on developments (in the Rides section)

[styler]

on another note the ca18det is 1.8L turbo which is sometimes the max size common turbo engine you can swap in for a registered car that
is an old skool light car eg old ke corollas and the like. so the 3tgte motor was a popular swap for example. well in qld at least not sure about other states.

i think the celica sould be easy 950kg or so at least which should be fine for 2L turbo in most places.

at least the ca motors have direct over head cams none of this old pushrod rocker technology

im glad people underestimate the ca motor, makes it cheaper to buy and theres still loads of bolt on parts etc. seems like there is quite a
massive following on the ca vs sr debate though. maybe people down the ca's because most of the them probably need a rebuild by now lol

[o_man_ra23]

at least the ca motors have direct over head cams none of this old pushrod rocker technology

So what motor are you reffering has the pushrods and rockers?? 3TGTE certainly didnt... any the other motors you mentioned are nissan poo n e ways

Cheers, Owen

[styler]

yeah toyota got it right with their performance tg series of motors

*cough* rockers *cough* nissan sr

[1G-UNIT]

Personally i would go the cadet engine, as alot of you would agree. One of my previous rides was a Datsun Bluebird with a ca18det and it was a fkn tuff engine. If you decide to go the ca i would upgrade the t25 turbo for a t28 ball bearing type depending on your financial position as you will need to grab an after market ecu + various other upgrades. Certainly the money you save on buying a ca over the sr should help you out. None the less the stock turbo was effiecient and they are very cheap to replace. I have also owned a s13 k series silvia (sr20det) it too was a great engine and a hell of alot quiter for it runs off a timing belt unlike the ca18 which runs off a chain, but pppppst who cares about noise when all you really want to hear is the turbo spool and the bov between gear changes. All in all both are good engines but for some reasons i will go the ca18 over the sr ohhh but dont forget the trusty fj's > that should give you something to think about

[o_man_ra23]

Personally I would go the 3SGTE... but hey, I like toyotas and Im a sucker for a difficult conversion.

The Garrett GT28/35R should be a good upgrade for the CA18, should spool well, and will flow quite well at the high revs the CA works at. Best though to see what others have done, and find out how their engines reacted (spool point, threshold point etc)

Cheers, Owen

[big wad]

ca18 great strong motor . if you are going to buy an import engine package it would really pay to fit a new head gasket before you fit the engine because it will fail .i have three long ca18 det engines if you need any bits .cheers bigwad

[Baref00t]

ca18det is out of a s13
has new:
mahle chromeolly ring
1.3mm graphite head gasket
lumpy top race pistons
rebuilt t25 turbo with sr20 wastegate
t25-g sr20 dump pipe and 02 sensor
new radiator hoses
chemically cleaned pintara radiator
5 speed manual pintara box
exa flywheel and heavy duty pressure plate
locked corona diff
600x300x75mm front mount
blow off valve
hks turbo timer
oil pressure guage
boost guage
fuel pressur guage
boost controller
4 x nissasn pulsar coils and leads
all wiring


That's the engine (I bought it), I hasn't been run in yet - all work is brand new. Will be hunting aftermarket ECU once i pick it up...