ca18det into a ta22

[kingmick]

Don't put a ca18 into a celica. Those motors are teh poo and make baby jesus cry. If you were going to go to all the trouble of custom engine mounts choose the sr20 as it is a much better motor.

- LeeRoy

could you been anymore wrong! i would take a CA18det over a SR20det every day of the week. can do the same with either but one has a cast block and is cheaper to do up.
if you strip both and build both you will see they are both very similar, exept an iron block is stronger.

[slide86]

i totally agree, what exactly is so bad about these engines?

i am trying to find one at the moment and i am helping to put one in a 1200 ute. these engines can take a fair bit of abuse and there are heaps of upgrades for them.

dont knock it till you try it

[Grega]

nothing wrong at all with the CA18DET, aside from it getting a little old now whereas the SR20DET is still used in the S15 (which i think is being dropped anyway)

both are good motors and have their own fors and againsts. its what you want to do - personally given the cost of a SR20 cut vs a CA18 cut i'd go the CA18 - cheaper and just as good. depends what your overall goal is.

[LeeRoy]

I'm prob a little biased cause a mate had a ca18det silvia and it was always dying and carrying on. One day it would be fine then next day it would shit coil packs which aren't cheap either, then it blew a hg, then that was fixed then it was something else. Most of this stuff was prob to do with it being an old motor but. On a more positive note there was a nuts 180sx with a ca in it that had some big numbers. Had dexter plates if i remember correctly.

- LeeRoy

[Bananaman]

I'm putting a ca18det in my ke20 for the exact reasons you list - availability and ease of boltons (and know-how), great bang for buck, and no need for custom bellhousing farting around. Most people has the SR is better attitude for no reason other than the capacity, which is absurd, they both have their good and bad points.

My motor was $650 with an auto attached, chose this because i drove one and found it impossible to thrash because of the shit box

What money i saved on the engine because of the p00 auto, i've obviously spent again getting a box and clutch kit. The upside being for the same money as what I would have spent on a manual CA, i've got myself a new clutch and pressure plate, and an ideally not thrashed engine.

[Cuzzo]

Hes a thinker. You cant thrash an auto as much as you can thrash the auto box.

You need to decide on what you want. Conversions and aftermaths of conversion will cost money. How much work You want to do and how much you want to pay for other people is a big factor. I think do what engine will make you happy with the best possible future mods. Remember we can all have our opinion but its you that will have to work on it.

Heap of good luck dude and make sure you put up a build thread.

[skiddz]

how much do you want to tub ur tranny tunnel? the s13 box is very large, especially compared with the t50

[o_man_ra23]

bah, its definitely sacreligeous to put a bits-a-missin mota into a Celica. I think anyone who does something this aweful should be banned!!

If your going to the trouble of custom engine mounts, why dont you drop in a 3SGTE?? MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH stronger motor, better mods available, many many aftermarket upgrades available, and it dont really matter if its been thrashed or not, cause they are uber strong. Not only that, but a W5x box with a 3Y bellhousing etc will bolt directly on, and put your starter in the right spot. Plus the sump is correct, and the exhaust is on the non-steering box side. For about $2200 you will get a Gen2 from a GT4, with loom ecu etc, and its good for 225hp stock as a rock. Add Garret BB turbo, ecu piggy back, programmable ignition, boost controller etc, and cracking 300hp is as easy as fallin over drunk.

Why look past toyota?? You will only be looking downhill

Cheers, Owen

PS, if you put nissan crap in ya Celica, I will be very dissapointed in you

[kingmick]

then convert it to rwd find a gearbox for it. so it will be cheaper getting a ca18det front cut with everything you need for less money.
owen you have not seen inside a ca18det have you? they are all quailty. dosnt matter what you put in aslong as you can afford to do it and it has the HP you want.

[myne]

Know what'd go really nicely in a ta22?

S2000 motor =)
If only there were some halfcuts floating around the place.

*waits for neg rep*

[tricky]

As sex as the F20C is, BEAMS 3S's have similar characteristics with a bit of work... But yes, an NA screamer FTW

[kugzs]

skidz; are you only guessing that the tranny tunnel will need tubbing, or do you know this for a fact. As oldrollas said earlier, the tunnel should be alright as people put W5X's in ta22's.

[o_man_ra23]

Didnt i just tell you what box and bell housing to use?? W5x's are common, as are 3Y bells. The rwd conversion isnt that much extra effort realistically, hardest part is the ignition system.

Doesnt matter whats inside the CA18... its still a nissan mota, and the TA22 is a purist toyota car.

Cheers, Owen

then convert it to rwd find a gearbox for it. so it will be cheaper getting a ca18det front cut with everything you need for less money.
owen you have not seen inside a ca18det have you? they are all quailty. dosnt matter what you put in aslong as you can afford to do it and it has the HP you want.

[kingmick]

purist toyota! hahahahaha what a load of crap that pure you are happy for him to put a 3sg in it. lol

[jeffro ra28]

just put a wankler in it!