Innovate Motorsports LC-1 feedback?

**oldcorollas** · 01-06-2006, 02:16 PM

hmm....
how does the auto tune work?
you set a table of desired AFR's (lambda) and then look for crossing points?
different to realtime AFR targetting?

**TurboRA28** · 01-06-2006, 02:23 PM

A write up can be found here on it - http://www.autronic.com/page_files/autotune_feature.htm

**oldcorollas** · 01-06-2006, 05:34 PM

This software uses a complex combination of math, including statistics, trigonometry and fuzzy logic to intelligently adjust the fuel delivery tables.

damn lies and trig and statistics

so it's basically AFR targetting like the MS variant...
hmm... i wonder why they stress a "differential" O2 input... is that any different to a nromal O2 sensors output when the 0-5V is adjusted to 0-1V? maybe it has a lookup table that is skewed toward rich and lean to provide faster tuning?

looks good

would love to try it.... after ignition settings are correct....

**jeffro ra28** · 01-06-2006, 05:50 PM

Mate, through my experience. What ever Innovate products we have used are a heap of junk.
We have trialled 2x LM-1 aux box's and they are not worth a pinch of shit. However our testing environments are far harsher then that in most motorsports.
We spent huge ammounts of money and alot of phone calls but we could not get either of the dataloggers to work properly. I put it down to they work well when in the right environment but cant handle rough conditions for shizen houzen. Seems this way because alot of the car installed innovate products seem to be okay. Just my experience with the mate, i dont mean to offend or put anyone off. I wouldnt go desert racing with one tho!

**The Witzl** · 01-06-2006, 10:39 PM

Stew,

i wouldnt trust ANYTHING that comes off Ray Hall's website (www.autronic.com) - the man has nothing to do with the design of AUtronics, he just sells them..... and "invents" features that dont yet exist!

Richard Aubert is the designer and the man that should be listened to.

That said tho - the Autronic autotune does work very similar to the Megasquirt-2 autotune, both of course need the laptop connected and software running to crunch the numbers and update the ECU's program.

**TurboRA28** · 02-06-2006, 01:38 PM

I wouldn't trust anything from Ray Hall period.

Jeffro - ashame you have not had a good experience with them.. I was just about to order one too.. Will have to do some more thinking.

**jeffro ra28** · 02-06-2006, 09:16 PM

Yer, and it seemed very odd that 2 of them shat themselves, 2 Brand new products with a fair bit of money tied up in them that we cant do anything with

The ol, no warranty on race parts BS.
Tho Joel, What we saw of the software etc was good. I favoured that part, just not the durability.