3T Versus 3T GTE conrods

[YelloRolla]

I can get them for you - pm for details

[sillycar chick]

3TC on the Left, 3TG on the Right.

Just take a look at the "ribbing" down the length of each rod - it looks to me like the 3TG has "thicker" ribbing. I think you will find the 3TG rods will be a lot stronger having come from a turbo engine, forged more than likely. So they will fit, but it just depends on how long you want them to hold up before you throw one through the block (worst case scenario)!!

[TRAV-KE55]

Just take a look at the "ribbing" down the length of each rod - it looks to me like the 3TG has "thicker" ribbing. I think you will find the 3TG rods will be a lot stronger having come from a turbo engine, forged more than likely. So they will fit, but it just depends on how long you want them to hold up before you throw one through the block (worst case scenario)!!

Thankyou very much
That is what i meant by a beifier rod. They basically have larger ribbing than a standard 2t 3t rod, and comming from the last gen of T series engines and a turbo one at that i would be pretty confident they are much stronger. What do you intend on doing with your engine?? I have a 13T race engine which consistantly see's 7500 rpm but has also seen near 9000rpm on occasions and the thing has been ultra reliable since i built it 5 years ago. Also know os a dohc using the 3tg rods and the same thing, it makes good hp and torgue and the rods have always been fine.
Trav

[YelloRolla]

Remember guys - the original question was relative to the use of "Eagle Conrods - to suit a 3T C" not the comparison of factory rods. Dimensionally they are the same.

Can anyone confirm if 3TC and 3TG conrods are the same? Thinking of buying some Eagle rods from a 3TC for my 3TGTE but want to be sure they fit.

As for the factory rod being beefier - I consider myself more learned from this thread.

[sillycar chick]

Remember guys - the original question was relative to the use of "Eagle Conrods - to suit a 3T C" not the comparison of factory rods. Dimensionally they are the same.

You are correct, and thanks for pointing that out Someone had already addressed the fact that they will fit, I was merely addressing the fact that they are however not the same so that others didnt get confused in the future and end up having the wear the expenses associated with throwing a rod through the block becuase someone said they were all the same

I hope now Simon (and any others) has all the information he was looking for

[TheToyman75]

All T series engines have the same rod length except the "T" (The 1.4l)

The pin and crank bearing sizes are all the same.

The Oil passage location varies between the engines so make sure you get the right bearings !!! Here is a pic of a 3T-GTE rod as fitted with a 2T bearing.



The 3T-GTE rods are allegedly stronger and forged.

I personally have swung the stock 2TG rods and stock 3T-GTE rods to 8500rpm on a very regular occasion.

Ryan with the infamous white & Red 10sec 3T-GTE powered TA22 in the US campaigned on stock 3T-GTE rods until he bent one.

Why use Forged rods (And yes I have a set of Eagle rods for mine) ?

$$$$ As Jason has illistrated above, They are a very similar price to a set of prepped stock ones (Possible more if you have to buy the 3T-GTE Rods first )

Weight - Comparison of the rod weights is coming

Strength - They are stronger which is never a bad thing.

Reliability - No urban myth or question here, By nature of design and construction they have to be better than the stock rods when used in High load applications.

Coolness - They look good listed in your engine parts list

[TA22 GT]

I hope now Simon (and any others) has all the information he was looking for

Thanks guys, I already have a 3T GTE. I just want to know if Eagle rods will fit and from this discussion it seems they are the way to go as they are another step up on the 3T GTE rods I already have.

Cheers,
Simon

[YelloRolla]

You are correct, and thanks for pointing that out Someone had already addressed the fact that they will fit, I was merely addressing the fact that they are however not the same so that others didnt get confused in the future and end up having the wear the expenses associated with throwing a rod through the block becuase someone said they were all the same

Indeed and it was a well spotted difference!

Oh and whats more - I am led to belive that the 3T GTE rod is forged whereas the 3TC rod is not.

I guess I was a bit vague when I pointed out that the GTE items are forged.

[TA22 GT]

I called High Performance World and got a quote of $565 for the Eagle rods.

Anyone know where I can get a better price?

Cheers,
Simon

[setsuna]

thats the price I quoted, why be so suprised?

there are some available on ebay.com us site.
expect between 65-100$ postage to australia though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...spagenameZWDVW

works out to be about the same price, but local.
also those rods use the 5/16 bolts, not the 3/8 bolts.

[TA22 GT]

thats the price I quoted, why be so suprised?
.

Haha, good point. Just hoping someone else is selling them cheaper.....

Cheers,
Simon

[YelloRolla]

thats the price I quoted, why be so suprised?

That price is good esp for those of us in Sydney can get out there and buy a set on a Saturday morning.

The set that I have here were bought from the ebay mob and are fitted with 3/8 bolts.

[AE25]

could try these guys in the states... remember to convert thier prices from US$ to AU$ + shipping

http://www.brdracing.com/
http://www.paradiseracing.com/
http://psiracing.com/
http://www.theracingstore.com/

[setsuna]

'go out there and buy a set on sunday'
oh joy! if only that was possible!

I placed my order (and paid!!) 7 and a half weeks ago. was looking at 4-5 weeks to arrive.

WRONG!!

7.5 in now, and another delay of another 1.5weeks so they say. (so I guess that may mean 3weeks, or more?)

quite frustrating, and not as happy and easy and pleasing as I first posted.

if I knew this was going to be the case, I would have bought them through someone else, and have had them by now!

9 weeks is damn well insane!

nothing I can do I guess. they have my money, and thats what counts.

ahh well.. my bad luck with peformance shops.

last time cmp ordered the wrong pistons and bored the block to suit. stuffed up other options.
*crys*

will my car ever run again

[setsuna]

welp.. rods *finally* came... after 10 weeks..
shiney stuff arrives, woes forgotten..
have some pics

-DAvid





*mmh seamless*