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    Default i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    hey i have a 1986 corolla 4age
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    the engine got taken out and i found out that the bottom end bearind was gone so they gave me a new 1 i put it in and hooked it all up and now it winds overy but there is no spark at all i double checked the wiring it looks fine and i did the same as i did the last time but now it just wont spark and ideas

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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    also does any one no what this is for
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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    Looks like your starter motor relay. Check the label on top of it and/or follow where the wires go to.
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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    correct starter motor relay..it the engines is turning over as you said.. it is working..
    does the dizzy spark AT ALL when u turn the engine over?
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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    dude. terrible punctuation! hard to read post!

    - you need to check that all the plugs are in correctly....
    - have you taken the dizzy out? is it in the correct position? ie is the timing correct?
    - ECU plugged in?
    - got the wiring on the coil around the correct way?

    just a few things to get you started.....
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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    no there is no spark at all. when i turn the engine over it winds over and the relay is not pluged i to any thing. i got told thats it is still timed and the ecu is pluged in also..

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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    well its going to have to be a process of illimination.

    any one of these could be your problem.

    * dizzy / leads / timing

    * ignitor

    * coil

    * fuse or relay

    * ECU

    * bad wiring

    I would start with the most obvious , which would be the timiing belt dizzy etc.

    try grounding the lead coming from the coil to the chassis and see if it sparks. that would be a start.

    good luck.

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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    i grounded the coil wire to the chassis no spark so the the dizzy would not be getting spark they said that they tested the engine before i got it what fuses and relays should i look at and i got a new ignitor and still no spark
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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    have you tried another coil?

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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    i will try that tomorrow and let u no
    thanks 4 ur help so far if not do u have any ideas it was working fine before i took the old engine out but i noticed that this engine has a diffrent lookind dizzy in it it is a red one from a gt could that make a diffrence

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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    where do the wires go on that relay? which direction and how far do they reach?
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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    OMG!!!!!
    this is a fullstop .
    this is a comma ,

    the fuses that you would need to check are the EFI fuse and i think there should be a relay for EFI too.

    so there is no spark now, there is either no power at the coil or the trigger signal going to the ECU has been interuppted.

    you should check for power at the +ve side of the coil using a multimeter

    If the dizzy is different, it may send a different trigger signal to the ECU. the ECU that you have may not be able to understand this signal.
    I am not 100% sure with 4age dizzy's, so this will need to be confirmed. try to get the original dizzy and refit it. then see if it starts
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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    Quote Originally Posted by pinkky
    i will try that tomorrow and let u no
    thanks 4 ur help so far if not do u have any ideas it was working fine before i took the old engine out but i noticed that this engine has a diffrent lookind dizzy in it it is a red one from a gt could that make a diffrence
    does it mean it's got a different dizzy to the usual 4A-GE one?? maybe that's where your problem is...

    adding to what warrior has said.. i've had this problem before.. mine was from the ECU to the ignitor.. something about a trigger failing.. Phrostbyte (RIP) has something similar, was the ignitor. Also look at your coil coz my mate just recently had the same problem coz of a rooted coil. Me old GZE spoontah had a lot of fuse issues, burnt wires and a dodgy ignition system which was part of the reason for a similar (among other) symptoms.

    hope this helps .. cheers
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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    ok,
    i got a new coil today still no spark.The positive and negative poins on the coil have power. i tested them with a circuit tester they both lit up the injectors were pulsing,but the main lead out of the coil had no power at all ,its the lead that comes out of the coil 2 the dizzy.
    i aslo got a new ignitor,
    still no go........

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    Default Re: i put another engine in it winds ova but no spark

    the efi fuses have power,

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