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    Hi,

    Same here, my engine is built. I just need to get the fuel system sorted out for EFI, whack the engine in and the ECu, get it tuned and I'm done.

    As per Witzy-babes, keep checking through the year. Hopefully it willg et done in the next couple of months.

    I went with the 18R-G turbo as it is period perfect for the car, and it's good to see them in the older cars, and it is no slouch when it comes to making power.

    For me, an engine conversion would be more expensive, as any engine I get I'd have it pulled down and fully rebuilt. So, if I got a 1G (which I'd never ever use, but for arguments sake, if I did) or a 1JZ, then I'd have them rebuilt from scratch, which will be probably more expensive (as the 18R-G is a direct bolt in and the other engines aren't).

    I wouldn't feel happy getting another engine and whacking it into the car, not knowing if the engine is good or bad or whatever. If I'm going down this road then I get it done properly and make sure the engine, no matter what it is, is rebuilt and like a "new" motor.

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    Hi,

    My original concept was using quad ITBs on a rebuilt 18R-G.

    The issue was it would cost more than a turbo set-up, plus it would not make the same power. You are not going to gain much more HP, if any at all, putting quad ITBs on the engine - especially as it ostensibly had quad ITBs with those dual Solex.

    However, with a good exhaust system and the ITBs, it should sound like pure porn!

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    Rebuilding an 18RG isnt that expensive to be honest. The most expensive part is usually the pistons - but if you are replacing them with forgies anyway, that cost is negated.
    Having only 8 valves makes head reconditioning very cheap too!

    I got my previous 18RG rebuilt for around $600, which included
    - machining and balancing
    - honing the bores
    - reconditioning/checking the head (and replacing valves with new items i provided)
    - block and head decking
    - specing and supplying new bearings
    - supply new rings
    - supply disassembled engine (i assembled it myself).

    My pistons were ok to re-use in the above engine.


    Yeah go the 18RG-turbo. It will rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumwah View Post
    Did he keep the same CR with the forgies?


    o_man_ra23 thanks for the advice aswell, i never thought about the studs :\ that would of been a disaster
    CR was changed to 8.8:1

    The rod bolts wouldn't have been a disaster. RPM is the most likely thing to hurt rod bolts (other than a material defect), and who hasn't buzzed their 18RG to 7K? (even though in stock form they make no power above 6K, and coming to think of it, not much below that RPM either).
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    Quote Originally Posted by YelloRolla View Post
    (even though in stock form they make no power above 6K, and coming to think of it, not much below that RPM either).
    They make plenty of power below 6K with EFI
    ... and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YelloRolla View Post
    CR was changed to 8.8:1

    The rod bolts wouldn't have been a disaster. RPM is the most likely thing to hurt rod bolts (other than a material defect), and who hasn't buzzed their 18RG to 7K? (even though in stock form they make no power above 6K, and coming to think of it, not much below that RPM either).
    I've taken mine to 8500 lol, no limiter!
    Oh yeh thats not much more, how much boost could it handle all day?

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    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gumwah View Post
    I've taken mine to 8500 lol, no limiter!
    Are you crazy? Do you understand the damage you can do to the time-space continuum when you unleash the fury of an 18R-G?

    How do you think faminine, el-nino and other worldly catastrophes occur? It's because someone, like you, runs amock with more power than the Large Hadron Collider, and upsets the balance of the planet.

    Matter of fact, both the Large Hadron Collider and HAARP use a de-tuned 18R-G for their power source. So, don't go giving your 18R-G unlimited revs without thinking of the consequences.

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    my reg gauge isnt working right now but if it was it would def be up in the 6.5K+ range everygear the fan belt squeeks and when the gauge was working it was doing it at 6k+
    Cheers, Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by river View Post
    Hi,



    Are you crazy? Do you understand the damage you can do to the time-space continuum when you unleash the fury of an 18R-G?

    How do you think faminine, el-nino and other worldly catastrophes occur? It's because someone, like you, runs amock with more power than the Large Hadron Collider, and upsets the balance of the planet.

    Matter of fact, both the Large Hadron Collider and HAARP use a de-tuned 18R-G for their power source. So, don't go giving your 18R-G unlimited revs without thinking of the consequences.

    seeyuzz
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    lol, nice reply it made for a good 20 second laugh.
    is the hadron collider the particle accelerator? its a waste of an 18R-G they should just give it to me for spare parts. The world is lucky im not gonna take it to 8500 when its worked or we'll be going back in time, or forward depending on which way im facing.
    For a good laugh, read this, i've only read the el nino one which is sweeet
    http://www.coyotethunder.com/RedMonk...sdom_of_j.html
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    Well JMR finished up my engine today, including the 36-1 crank trigger.
    Trigger wheel and sensor were bought from http://trigger-wheels.com/store/

    ... then JMR turned down the crank pulley, removing the front two belt grooves (not used for me), and left a nice lip for the trigger wheel to mount to.
    He then turned out the centre of the trigger wheel on the laithe, and made a step in it to match the crank pulley, pressed the two together, and drilled and tapped it to secure the trigger wheel with four M5 bolts.

    A bracket was then made for the sensor, and bolted to the timing cover.

    Pretty simple really!





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    farkernell! That's solid!

    Is that a magnetic reluctor pickup?
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    Nice, wish i had mates with precision tools. i just have to go with the mk 1 eyeball

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    Default Re: The 18R-GTE reference manual ...

    Hey does anyone have an 18R-GEU manual? I need to know torque settings etc

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    Default Re: The 18R-GTE reference manual ...

    I have an 18rg manual. What torques you after.

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    Default Re: The 18R-GTE reference manual ...

    just a note, there are two different torque setting for the cam caps. one is very wrong the next page is correct. be wary and don't get your little brother to torque them up for you.

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