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    Default ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    I've got a ae101 gze with sc14, front mount and 3sge throttle body and was wondering how much of a gain i'd have by adding a ge inlet manifold?

    Is it worth the effort?


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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    The standard ZE manifold is horrible, but they seem to be a fairly balanced setup. With my SC12, I was making 108kW (I think) with the standard manifold and replacing the entire inlet system (custom manifold) got it up to 130kW.
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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    Keep in mind that it will well be an effort, the SC and the manifold will interfer with the standard mounting points.

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    20kw might just be worth the effort.

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    I finally got around to putting this together and got it running tonight but it didn't take long to blow a hose off as I closed the throttle so I assume I'll need another bov or one bigger unit, I'm using a 30mm lancer evo valve.

    The other thing i'm not sure about is the 3 fittings on the sc which from what I understand are there to balance out the vacuum on both sides of the shaft seals when the throttle is closed so should they get a positive pressure feed now that tb is after the sc?

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    Yeah you probs need a bigger BOV

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    i would run the throttle body back before the s/c to save issues of having to try BOV's etc. the s/c moves too much air for them. make a adaptor where the throttle body was on the manifold to pipe the s/c straight onto it.

    see if you can find some of ben wilsons pics, a deep search might get some.

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    Can you provide pics of your setup? Specifically how you supported the top of the supercharger?

    I'm putting an SC14 onto my AE101 GZE, and am interested in swapping the manifold too.

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    Quote Originally Posted by TERRA Operative View Post
    Can you provide pics of your setup? Specifically how you supported the top of the supercharger?

    I'm putting an SC14 onto my AE101 GZE, and am interested in swapping the manifold too.
    Yeah no probs got a few pics and measurments, pm me your email.

    I'm going to try another 30mm bov and use a hobbs switch to cut the sc clutch when boost spikes.

    Should i be running boost pressure to the 3 ports on the sc?

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    The 3 ports would ideally be hooked into the intake line just after the air filter, as per the original setup.

    http://mr2.com/TEXT/SuperChargerInfo.html

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    Quote Originally Posted by TERRA Operative View Post
    The 3 ports would ideally be hooked into the intake line just after the air filter, as per the original setup.
    If there is no 'vacuum' then there is no need to equalise the off boost pressure differential. I say plumb the 3 ports to the discharge of the SC.
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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    In that case it doesn't matter where it's put. It can be blocked off to no ill effect.

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    if you guy's are talking about the s/c crankcase vent system? then just join the front pipe with the rear pipe. iradiavting the ACV (air control valve) that's normaly mounted on the top of the s/c with the top mounting bolts.

    dont run boost to them or just block them off. join them together.

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    Joining them together will have the same effect as blocking them off.

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    Default Re: ge inlet onto gze - effort vs gain

    at least joining them together the front and rear crankcase can equalize pressure the way i see it.

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