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    jzx100 fan boy Domestic Engineer slide86's Avatar
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    Default Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    I had a look on the old forum for info regarding the swaping of injector and there is a bit of info and its random and spread all over the shop.

    Thought id try to make a new thread that details what injectors can be swapped to what AND THE CORRECT PLUGS THAT NEED TO BE USED ON THE LOOM.

    The sorts of info that would be good are:
    FLOW RATE
    ORIGINAL ENGINE
    MATCHING PLUG
    PART NUMBER (if available)
    WHAT ENGINE INJECTOR FITS IN
    IMPEDENCE

    Post up what you know/what you have done and how you did it!
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    i was looking for similar info a while ago and found this link (sorry if it's been posted before) http://lextreme.com/Injector%20data.htm

    Hope it helps
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    So according to this 7MGTE injectors OR early 3SGTE injectors will plug straight into a
    4AGZE loom.

    It says that the plugs are the same.

    confirm or reject?
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    1JZGTE injectors go straight into the 20v silvertop fuel rail, plugs are identical also.

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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    well ill post up the info i found b4:
    Heres the link: http://www.toysport.com/webpages/Tec.../injectors.htm
    That whole website is pretty good

    Heres a copy paste of the info:

    TOYOTA INJECTORS
    (NIPPON DENSO)

    TEST
    CC / MIN COLOR OHMS lbs / HR kPa APPLICATION

    430 black 2.9 42.2 255 7MGTE, 3SGTE
    365 red/orange 2.9 33.9 255 4AGZE
    295 pink 1.6 28.9 255 22RTE
    295 yellow 2.7 28.9 255 7MGE
    210 blue 2.4 20.6 255 4AGE
    200 dark grey 1.7 19.6 290 3SFE
    200 beige 1.7 19.6 290 4YE
    200 orange 1.7 19.6 290 22RE
    200 brown 1.7 19.6 290 3VZE
    200 pink 2.7 19.6 290 4AGE
    182 dark grey 2.0 17.8 255 4AGE
    182 grey 2.4 17.8 255 4ME,5ME, 5MGE
    145 light green 2.4 14.2 255 1GE, 4K

    550 purple 13.8 53.9 290 2JZGTE US
    430 white 13.8 42.2 255 2JZGTE JAP
    315 pink 13.8 30.9 290 3SGE
    315 light green 13.8 30.9 290 7MGE
    295 green 13.8 28.9 255 3SGE
    282 light green 13.8 27.6 290 2RZE
    282 purple 13.8 27.6 290 2TZFE
    250 purple 13.8 24.5 290 1UZFE
    250 green 13.8 24.5 290 4AGE
    250 purple 13.8 24.5 290 4AGE
    250 brown 13.8 24.5 255 3SGE
    250 yellow/orange 17.0 24.5 255 22RTE
    213 light blue 13.8 20.9 290 3FE
    213 beige 13.8 20.9 290 4AGE
    213 yellow 13.8 20.9 290 5SFE
    200 dark blue 13.8 19.6 290 3SFE
    200 orange 13.8 19.6 290 22RE
    200 blue 13.8 19.6 290 22RE
    200 brown 13.8 19.6 290 3VZFE
    200 red 13.8 19.6 290 2VZFE
    176 light green 13.8 17.3 290 4AFE
    176 grey 13.8 17.3 290 4AFE
    155 red 13.8 15.2 288 3EE
    155 dark blue 13.8 15.2 289 3EE
    155 violet 13.8 15.2 290 3EE, 2EE
    155 light blue 13.8 15.2 290 1GFE
    155 violet 13.8 15.2 290 4AFE
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    7mgte injectors will plug into a 4agze and most likley a 4age loom aswell

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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    Quote Originally Posted by 4agte
    7mgte injectors will plug into a 4agze and most likley a 4age loom aswell
    4AGZE loom yes,
    4AGE no, thes use a bosch style plug

    7MGTE fit 1G engines, same plug as gen3 1GGTE and 1GGZE, not sure on any of the other tho.
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    Not quite - AE86/AE82 Injector Plugs are square Bosch Style Plugs, AE92/AE101 have the rounded "Denso" style injector plugs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forcefed6
    4AGZE loom yes,
    4AGE no, thes use a bosch style plug

    7MGTE fit 1G engines, same plug as gen3 1GGTE and 1GGZE, not sure on any of the other tho.
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    the GZE has a different plug to the 100KW High Ohm because its a Low Ohm injector.

    low omh plugs look like this


    High ohm plugs look like this


    Old toymods thread here: http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.p...t=0#msg_419073
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    Depends on the plug. The Smallport AE92 loom has the E style plugs, and so you can modify the injectors (cut off the wings) and so use them. The bigport looms use the square bosch style plugs, and so you cant use GZE, 1G or 7M injectors.

    However, all the GZEs had the F style plugs, and so can use teh above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuzzo
    well ill post up the info i found b4:
    Heres the link: http://www.toysport.com/webpages/Tec.../injectors.htm
    That whole website is pretty good

    Heres a copy paste of the info:

    TOYOTA INJECTORS
    (NIPPON DENSO)

    TEST
    CC / MIN COLOR OHMS lbs / HR kPa APPLICATION

    430 black 2.9 42.2 255 7MGTE, 3SGTE
    365 red/orange 2.9 33.9 255 4AGZE
    295 pink 1.6 28.9 255 22RTE
    295 yellow 2.7 28.9 255 7MGE
    210 blue 2.4 20.6 255 4AGE
    200 dark grey 1.7 19.6 290 3SFE
    200 beige 1.7 19.6 290 4YE
    200 orange 1.7 19.6 290 22RE
    200 brown 1.7 19.6 290 3VZE
    200 pink 2.7 19.6 290 4AGE
    182 dark grey 2.0 17.8 255 4AGE
    182 grey 2.4 17.8 255 4ME,5ME, 5MGE
    145 light green 2.4 14.2 255 1GE, 4K

    550 purple 13.8 53.9 290 2JZGTE US
    430 white 13.8 42.2 255 2JZGTE JAP
    315 pink 13.8 30.9 290 3SGE
    315 light green 13.8 30.9 290 7MGE
    295 green 13.8 28.9 255 3SGE
    282 light green 13.8 27.6 290 2RZE
    282 purple 13.8 27.6 290 2TZFE
    250 purple 13.8 24.5 290 1UZFE
    250 green 13.8 24.5 290 4AGE
    250 purple 13.8 24.5 290 4AGE
    250 brown 13.8 24.5 255 3SGE
    250 yellow/orange 17.0 24.5 255 22RTE
    213 light blue 13.8 20.9 290 3FE
    213 beige 13.8 20.9 290 4AGE
    213 yellow 13.8 20.9 290 5SFE
    200 dark blue 13.8 19.6 290 3SFE
    200 orange 13.8 19.6 290 22RE
    200 blue 13.8 19.6 290 22RE
    200 brown 13.8 19.6 290 3VZFE
    200 red 13.8 19.6 290 2VZFE
    176 light green 13.8 17.3 290 4AFE
    176 grey 13.8 17.3 290 4AFE
    155 red 13.8 15.2 288 3EE
    155 dark blue 13.8 15.2 289 3EE
    155 violet 13.8 15.2 290 3EE, 2EE
    155 light blue 13.8 15.2 290 1GFE
    155 violet 13.8 15.2 290 4AFE

    in all that they still havent got 1JZGTE listed, which are yellow and 380cc/min unsure of the other details though

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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    yeah i noticed that too.
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    just thought i would add that the 210cc 4AGE Injectors fit into the RA65

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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    Just another thing. i have got the 7mgte injectors and have grinded(right word?) off the locating plastic bit on the side of the injector, not the clip one! They now fit back into my smallport wiring harness. Dont grind too much off!
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    Default Re: Injector interchangeability and plugs to suit

    Can anyone tell me if the 1g injectors are low or high impedence?
    As I'm planning to buy 7MGTE 800cc injectors, but don't know whether I need the high or low impedence... I will be running an aftermarket computer. Any thoughts?

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