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    Toymods Club Member #194 Conversion King Lambolica's Avatar
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    Default Re: 1uzfe ra28 weight balance

    I concur with GT part stealing buddy RA28 GTV weighs in a 1090kg,

    One however wonders if that is with or without the ugly bumpers as they weigh a metric shiet load.

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    mate if you want info on icv check out www.oz-clubbies.com

    from my understanding of it all u wont get an engineer in qld or nsw or vic to pass it as an icv, and its really expensive to get it engineered, cos most engineeres charge an hourly rate, and then it has to be passed by the government in ur location.... basically its really hard...

    my 13btt lotus 7 replica is an icv but it got through back with the easier emissions, would never pass now....

    also it has to pass a drive by and stationary noise test, they will also want to do beaming and tortion test to check for the strength and twist of the chassis....

    also also if the car is too similar to the original they wont class it as an icv, i personally think from my understanding of it all the only way to get a celica through would be to remove the chassis and build a full tube steel chassis and stitch the body to it, or similar, a simple xmember and irs would only be looked on as a major modification not an icv.... pm me and i can email you all the ncop paperwork

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    Default Re: 1uzfe ra28 weight balance

    you could move to New Zealand.....

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    Hey you, keep quiet. If those silly Aussies work out what you can legally do over here the place will be overrun in no time, well Auckland will at least. I'll just hang on the fringes as I do now....

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    Back to the topic of balance, the 1UZ is longer than the 3S and because it is much wider than the 3S I doubt you would be able to get it back as far in the engine bay so you'd have a reasonable amount more motor in front of the axle line.

    I say put a 2GR in it. The capacity is legal and it makes more power than a non vvti 1UZ anyway. The engine is shorter than a 3S from what I've seen and all alloy block etc so should be great for balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambolica View Post
    My research
    Beams 3S-GE = 145kg No exhaust mani but with flywheel/clutch
    so where all the engine mounts and brackets on the block at the time? alternator/starter/etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshstix View Post
    Back to the topic of balance, the 1UZ is longer than the 3S and because it is much wider than the 3S I doubt you would be able to get it back as far in the engine bay so you'd have a reasonable amount more motor in front of the axle line.

    I say put a 2GR in it. The capacity is legal and it makes more power than a non vvti 1UZ anyway. The engine is shorter than a 3S from what I've seen and all alloy block etc so should be great for balance.
    i like this post.
    It takes me to a happy place.

    So has anyone actually looked at a 2GR-FE in close up detail to see how easy/impossible it is to north-south RWD mount it?
    I know the engines are pretty expensive to buy compared to a 1UZ - but we all know that the cost of the engine is generally insignificant in the overall cost of a major conversion
    ...... butt scratcher?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshstix View Post
    Back to the topic of balance, the 1UZ is longer than the 3S and because it is much wider than the 3S I doubt you would be able to get it back as far in the engine bay so you'd have a reasonable amount more motor in front of the axle line.

    I say put a 2GR in it. The capacity is legal and it makes more power than a non vvti 1UZ anyway.
    But less torque and sounds crap

    However!

    Quote Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_GR_engine
    Its service weight is 163kg.
    Would be nice if you had a chance in hell of finding one of these badboys -
    2GR-FSE engine is rated at 315 PS (232 kW; 311 hp) at 6,400 RPM and 377 Nm at 4,800 RPM. The engine's service weight is 174 kg.

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    agreed, its a great motor in principal but good luck getting one, at all let alone for less than 5-8K.
    hell, having never seen one for sale who knows what they're worth.

    my 1UZ is pretty close to the firewall and there is heaps of room in front.
    when i finish my car ill weigh it for you.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sciflyer View Post
    But less torque and sounds crap
    Sure it's not a V8 but I wouldn't necessarily say it has to sound crap.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRXGWk1n8to

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    Hmmm as much as i love the UZ Joel it's nothing special in n/a form and would be a big step backwards in your car. It's way longer than the 3S (pretty much a 700mm cube) and around 40kg heavier in the same spec.

    Why the change...just bored?

    For what it's worth i think there are 4 sensible options for your car.

    1) Throw a decent amount of dollars refining what you have. Built engine, billet inlet, trick box etc

    2) BEAMs with FI. The same but different

    3) 1MZ. Different, similar effort to UZ. Good weight balance. Again, not great n/a but could be. I'd just get it engineered n/a and then go a simple FI setup afterwards....centrifugal SC would make sense and easy to remove/install as required.

    4) If the reg allow then an LS is definitely the way to go if you want n/a V8. Smaller and about the same weight as the UZ. Way more hp potential n/a and solid aftermarket support. A tad blasphemous but i wouldn't hold it against you

    Forget ICV, virtually impossible for a full bodied (non kit) car and def impossible with a UZ.
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    Default Re: 1uzfe ra28 weight balance

    i called my engineer yesterday, he said qld transport passed a letter around to all "approved persons" earlier in the year saying that they would not allow and not approve any change in GVM to any light vehicle (with the exception of the extra axel conversion to the 4x4's where they go from 4wheels to 6wheels) so there is no way a LS1 (or a FI 1uz) can be engineered into an RA23 in qld at this stage.....

    other states might differ, but thats how it is for qld at the moment... also if you even think of icv please check out oz-clubbies and see just how hard it will be, might stop wasted time dreaming about it

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