4wd ae82

[bje10s]

hey someone has done this in aus!! i think off the rollaclub.com but i cant find any info on it.. is it possible to just use the tercel/ae95 gearbox/diff/driveshaft and put it in a ae82? the ttercel still ran a 4ac so should fit right?

ben

[bnicho]

The Tercel (AL25) is north-south mounted, so the drivetrain won't fit an AE82 at all.

The AE95 AWD Corolla (or Carib in import form) is a diffenet beast. Basically an AE92 wagon with a driven rear axle. It runs a 4AFC but people have put in 4AGZE and 20v units. The drivetrain might fit an AE82.

[bje10s]

do you think if engine mounts were made up to make it N-S instead of E-W add the 4wd box and transfer case plus the rear differential should do it right. i know its not taht easy but that would be the gist of it im guessing???

im really looking into this so any info/advice would be greatly appreciated.. as the ae95's are so cheap! i will just buy the whole car and take what i need from it

[bnicho]

In an AE95 the motor is mounted east-west anyway. Not north-south like the AL25.

Google AE95 pics and you should find an underbonnet shot.

Personally I'd just buy an AE95 and trick that up. I'm still gutted that I missed out on the one here in Melb which had a 20v already in it for $1500. I was sick with the flu and missed the end of the auction.

[bje10s]

i already just brought a ae82 with a 4agze and coilovers and the box is crunching is 2nd so within the next 5000kms i would like to do something like this conversion and be abit different lol

yeah just checked i read your 1st post wrong.. sorry

so what i need is the driveshaft and front/rear axles plus gear box?

[The Witzl]

you forgot the cost of a tank of fuel


..... seriously this is NOT a simple conversion.

[wagonist]

Plus a lot more.

The transmission tunnel would need to be checked. Often these are changed between FWD & 4wd models.

The rear suspension will most likely have many more attachment points (due to mounting of the diff mainly) than the FWD model.

eg, my last Caldina was a FWD model.
The rear suspension bolt up points consisted of:

• 2 frontal points for longitudinal arms
• 2 rear pickups for crossmember which than mounted the tranverse arms

The 4wd rear suspension had these, plus:

• 2 front pickups for crossmember for front of diff
• different rear points for the rear diff mount crossmember
• different swaybar mounts

none of these additional points even existed on my FWD model

Along with this, you need to remember the tailshaft needs to get past the steering rack.
On the Caldinas, the 4wd steering rack is mounted higher than the FWD model, meaning different mounting points, different length shaft, different front hubs (because the steering rack is in a different position, the angles are all different).

You'll find that apart from fully rebuilt cars, most of the 4wd conversion done in Oz are either RWD to 4wd, or conversion to 4wd where there was a 4wd variant available (ie people have cut out & replaced the rear floor from Lancer coupes & welded in an EVO rear end.

Seriously, this is a lot or work & beyond most workshops, And you need to do a lot more research before you continue.

There's an ST195 Caldina on ebay (listed as a 98 model, but its a pre 96) that's already got a 3S-FE & 4wd for about $5000.

One GT4 halfcut (that WILL bolt in) & you've got a seriously quick bit of gear for a lot less headache & $$$ than what you're talking about.

[Hen]

Short answer: No.

2wd -> 4wd conversions are a huge can of worms and headfuck. The very few successful ones I know of have been long, involved, costly and a huge credit to the mechanical skills and persistence of those who did them.

And I think the old saying is especially true here, if you need to ask on the internet, then it's almost certainly beyond you.

Hen

[The Witzl]

Hen - im going to quote you on that one....

[WDE_BDY]

That sort of conversion is do-able but Hen is 100% right, in 99% of cases if you had the skills or the cash you wouldn't be asking here. Some inspiration for you anyway just in case -
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10015

Callum

[wagonist]

And I think the old saying is especially true here, if you need to ask on the internet, then it's almost certainly beyond you.

Hen

I think this needs to become the new saying.

Can it be quoted at the top of the Conversions section?

The 80s is when AWD started to come about.
The first GT4 Celica was in 85.
The AE9# Corolla had AWD variations of all the models (there is someone on here with an AWD AE92 Sedan import). The AE95 Carib/Tercel was the only one with a live rear axle.

If you're serious, I'd be scouting NZ for one of these, cut it up & weld it into a local AE92, not AE82.

[bje10s]

'One GT4 halfcut (that WILL bolt in) & you've got a seriously quick bit of gear for a lot less headache & $$$ than what you're talking about.'

so you think this will be a better option?

sorry but arent forums a place where you go when you cant find any info on the project you are contemplating? or is it just me>

info/planning/experience/will power/money/time all goes into a project and im asking more experienced people there opinion.. wrong or not?

[WDE_BDY]

sorry but arent forums a place where you go when you cant find any info on the project you are contemplating? or is it just me>

info/planning/experience/will power/money/time all goes into a project and im asking more experienced people there opinion.. wrong or not?

Oh no, this is definitely the place to ask. Its just the advice you will receive is that for this type of conversion 99% of people asking simply aren't capable of executing it properly. Better to be upfront and say so than tell you its a bolt in job. You generally find the people who are capable are already doing it or start with a good plan and just want advice on details in specific areas. There are heaps of less ambitious projects that end up with the owner in way over their head and therefore get ditched, don't want to see you waste time and money because you weren't told just how much of a big job it is.

Callum

[bje10s]

yeh i realise the job ahead is hard lol and not just going to be a 1day/week/month thing..

i dint think it would be massive work considering the ae95 and the ae82 use the 4a engine so the box and shafts should near enough match up..

i appreciate all the feed back anyway thanks

[Cuzzo]

sorry but arent forums a place where you go when you cant find any info on the project you are contemplating? or is it just me>

Yes but you need to help youself before others can help you.

How bout you forget the idea and we'll forget you mentioned it.

WDE-BODY is right you wouldnt be asking here if you were serious. You wouldnt pay someone to do it as it will cost you 200,000. So do you have the skills to do it?