4AGE Blown Head Gasket

[frostyadonis]

you dont have to worry about buying rims
but i'd lower it, and thats it

the gap between buying and fixing the aw11 isn't that much compared to the sw20 price

did you like the drive away no more to pay line- you can say 8k or 7k in 6months

[LeeRoy]

leeRoy - He's looking at a whole car, not just a motor.

Locote - It sounds to me like you would be paying people to do a GZE/20v conversion for you, if thats the case, then I would just look aroung for a factory supercharged AW11. It will work out cheaper in the end

My bad, didn't read his post properly

I agree with most of the other stuff in here.

Your best options are
a. Fix engine
b. Replace with same engine
c. Buy another AW11 with the engine you want.

[locote]

The bloke wont answer his phone i wanna test drive the ZE AW11 he has aswell...
maybe he changed his mind...
For same price i can get a fully restored 89 crx.... with coilis and bushes bars...
hard decision..

[feral4mr2]

cos this bhg job could cost more that what your paying for the whole car

utter BS mate!

[tooch]

you dont have to worry about buying rims
but i'd lower it, and thats it

the gap between buying and fixing the aw11 isn't that much compared to the sw20 price

But the AW11 will be +eleventy billion times more fun to drive, especially if the SW20 is n/a, AND auto!

[KARNAGE]

i agree with tooch and feral we all own aw11 and it would cost way less then 2grand for a head gaskit change, its seriously not that hard to do yourself either.

Plus the aw11 in my opinion is a much better buy then a auto sw20 as it would out handle it anytime. I would also say that these people saying 5 grand to install a 20 valve are wrong i would have a better look into that as from my experience all engine conversions go over the 5 grand mark specially if thats including the cost of the engine as well.

[frostyadonis]

utter BS mate!

well thats good to hear

if you fix it what would you quote him then?

how many 4age's have you done? how much did it cost you?

very interested in budget 4age stuff, where and how much.

repco and bursons seem to charge double for 4age parts compared to any other jap make parts

[feral4mr2]

i wouldnt quote anyone anything with-out looking at it mate. specialy over the internets.

i've been playing with the 4age engine since i bought my first aw11 in 1995. awesome little motor. i can count my rebuilds for myself and others on both hands.
these engine are tough, and unless you've seriously overheated on the heads i've found are not prone to warpage. popping a HG in between the cylinders doesn call for machining IMO, (check it with a steel for peace of mind though of course). clean the old gasket off and clean the surface up with a stone or DIY sandpaper board. same with the block surface. i've repaired (i'll call it repaired since a rebuild really should mean complete, replace/renew many components etc.) 4age engines with a blown HG where i have only replaced the HG, inlet/exhaust gasket, oil and coolant and they have run strong for many a year. yes i've reused the head bolts, even on a boosted engine.
4age engine parts are prity cheap IMO, even genuine i wouldnt call expensive. it all depends on how anal you want to get i guess.

sure a full engine rebuild replacing everything that can be replaced, machine work etc. will cost a small fortune, and i will not say how much i've spent doing that in the past. haha.
but to buy a aw11 with a blown HG for 2 grand you can fix it up rather cheaply to a running state.
hell i guess if i didnt have so many of them and some spare cash i would be interested in purchasing discussed car myself!

locote, have you ever driven a aw11? the good ol stock 4age engine is plenty enough fun for the car.


sorry if thats a bit breif with no real facts, i've got a hangover from shift change!

[LeeRoy]

I agree with Feral including the reuse of headbolts. In my curiosity I also asked toyota if there were an item that needed replacing and they said no.

I've done 2 4a hg's too and can say they certainly don't approach the 2k mark - even if you had a mechanic do it. It's a fairly basic procedure for someone with some mechanical aptitude and the right tools.

It's a 2 day job if your doing it yourself, with about $300 for a full VRS kit.

[feral4mr2]

if you were just to replace the the blown HG it's only a matter of spending some time during one day and do it in car. the engine doesnt need to be removed.

[locote]

akk that changes things a lil..
I was a bit put off by all the posts...
Went to look a t a gen2 crx.
But the guy withthe MR2 isnt answering my calls so ill wait and see

[LeeRoy]

if you were just to replace the the blown HG it's only a matter of spending some time during one day and do it in car. the engine doesnt need to be removed.

I did them both in car - which is probably the easier way to go

[KARNAGE]

i did my aw11 in car as well did it from start to finish in one day bout 10 hours works with lots of alcohol lol

[Lachie]

Agreed with not haviong to replace the head bolts. I never replaced mine during a rebuild and the motor runs sweet

[greywolf]

I think replacing the head bolts is a good investment in the sense of 'I'm already hear, lets do it now'. Depending on age and condition of the engine, if the head has been pulled once or twice before you can be guarenteed that the bolts will have stretched. Why not get it done rather than have a POTENTIAL problem done the track ?