2tg rebuild costs?

[**ta22**]

Hi All,

Probably been covered or mentioned before but i am keen to know how much it would cost to rebuild a 2TG enginewhich is a little tired?

Maybe people who have done this recently can contribute as i think these parts are getting harder to find and more expensive than 5-10 years ago.

What specs were used? the hotter the engine i am sure the higher the $$cost!

Thanks for your help!

cheers,
Az

[Lukey-KE20]

I'm in the middle of getting mine done at the moment. It's getting bored 1mm oversize - so as a rough guide

Bore and Hone - $165
New Pistons - $120
Fly cut valve reliefs - $40
Pistons on rods - $40
Chrome rings - $75
Bearings - $45 + $42
Thrust washer - $19
Gaskets - $122
Head service $240

That list adds up to $908.

Add to that some various seals, timing chains, fly wheel, cleaning, decking, assembly and other assorted labour.

[Lukey-KE20]

Add any crank work to that as well. Linishing for me = $60

[SilverRA23]

Who is doing the assembly? That will play a significant part in costs! You or do you need to pay someone to do it?

[**ta22**]

Well i would probably have someone do most of the specialised stuff but i am interested in comments from people who have done either.

Lukey-ke20: that seems pretty cheap is that about the normal price?

[Lukey-KE20]

I stripped it down myself - and I'll put it all back together.

I'm not getting any favours so I assume those costs are standard. Labour charge is $70 ph.

[SilverRA23]

Does seem cheap. With an 18rg I am building up I had just the head serviced, some corrosion welded and the shims done, and it was $700 alone.

[**ta22**]

Any one else got anything??

[SilverRA23]

Budget for $2,500 I reckon. And that will be doing some of the work yourself.

[gerald1]

depends on how much of a rebuild you are talking about:

i rebuilt a 2t/3t and compared to some builds it cost all of SFA.

I already had a 2t, and i bought a 3t for $250

did all the work, bar machining, myself.

this is what i had to pay for:

head decked 1mm - $60
camshaft regrind - $260ish
flywheel lightened and resurfaced - $260ish
set of piston rings got them at trade price for $90
and a new clutch for $100 - trade price.

gaskets - got an entire set real cheap off a bloke for $40 but budget more than that for a good set of 2tg gaskets.

and then once you add all the other shit in - budget at least $200 for other stuff. this is oils, stuff to clean things with, silicone goop, tools that you dont have or that break and need replacing, wd40, degreaser, beer, blah blah.

now that is ultra cheap. we didnt buy a single bearing and we didnt have the block honed both of which are recommended....but im a pov uni student and my chief engine builder (my brother) said we could get away with what we had. also we didnt rebuild our head... all we did was pull it apart, clean all the valves and such n such and put it back together ourselves....

we cleaned all the parts we had up ourselves. one of the 3t pistons looked a little damaged but we just got a file and cleaned it up oursleves... shit like that. we had 2 engines with almost exactly the same parts between them so we always just grabbed the better of the two parts. e.g. had 2 timing chains... picked the least stretched one.

our philosophy was.... it was running before we pulled it apart, so no reason to replace parts that were working.

so if you want to be cheap and rebuild an engine and not do it by the book. then you can do it for hardly anything.... BUT as you are paying someone else to do it and probably want to go over bore with new pistons and such you will want to budget a heck of a lot more.

try giving john moyle a call and asking them how much it would cost

but first you will want to know what you want in your build.

catchyas
gerald

[SilverRA23]

I'd approach it the other way myself.. the thing is apart, replace the "consumables" like timing chains etc while its all apart, so I don't need to worry about it later.

That said I dont have an engine builder living under the same roof who could do it again if need be hehe

[river]

Hi,

Asking for the price on an engine rebuild is like asking how much a car costs. It all depends what you want. Also, the more work you can do yourself the cheaper it will be.

I'm a lazy tosser and have no room to do a rebuild and I doubt my expertise to do a full rebuild without stuffing up something. So, in my case, I found it easier and less hassle to hand over the engine to someone who knows what they are doing and who has more experience than me. My engine rebuild is about $4500 for and 18R-GUE being fully rebuilt with new bearings, crank grind, ARP studs, new pistons, machined, acid bathed, turbo'd and all the shit required to make an engine that is like new and capable of running 20-24 pound boost.

Add another $4k to get a top notch ECU installed and the engine tuned.

When pulled apart, before the rebuild, the head looked very nice and clean. THe engine was running before it got rebuilt, but I wanted the whole thing checked. If it's out of the car and being rebuilt I felt better to get the whole enchilada done. Lucky I chose that path for there was some nasty scoring on the bearings and journals.

Hopefully in the next 4-6 weeks I get my lovely 18R-GTE engine completed and put into Trini.

seeyuzz
river

[river]

Hi,

our philosophy was.... it was running before we pulled it apart, so no reason to replace parts that were working.

That's a courageous decision. One I can understand if funds are limited and you are not rebuilding the engine for high performance.

Personally, I prefer the "check and do the lot" approach. Sure, it costs more money, but while the engine is out of the car it may as well get the full treatment. I don't want to have to drop the engine some weeks or months later and spend more money and time off the road because something wasn't done when there was the chance to do it. Of course, the rebuild I am getting asks for a lot more power than stock so it was the smartest choice to get the whole engine checked and rebuilt.

seeyzuz
river

[gerald1]

but when you start replacing 1 consumable then where do you stop?

we could have spent an extra $1000 replacing everything and doing a proper rebuild.... but we had limited time and limited funds.

my brother (who unfortunately lives in sydney while i live in adelaide so we cant spend all the time messing with cars) was teaching me how to rebuild an engine on the cheap... so yeah.

but i dunno. you can rebuild an engine for not too much, depends on how much power you want and how much money you got.

[river]

Hi,

but when you start replacing 1 consumable then where do you stop?

we could have spent an extra $1000 replacing everything and doing a proper rebuild.... but we had limited time and limited funds.

my brother (who unfortunately lives in sydney while i live in adelaide so we cant spend all the time messing with cars) was teaching me how to rebuild an engine on the cheap... so yeah.

but i dunno. you can rebuild an engine for not too much, depends on how much power you want and how much money you got.

Absolutely!

You can go on forever doing things and paying dearly for them. At the end of the day it comes down to what you want from the engine and spend accordingly.

seeyuzz
river