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    Alchemist, you reckon you could get Danae or Dave to put up a list of the winners for the event and who they are on the forum/where they are from, for the benefit of all the guys/gals who didnt come.

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    Hey jack...

    ill see how many i can do from memory....

    top interior pre 86 - Danae blundell - ra23 celica
    top interior post 86 - matt bently - is200
    top exterior pre 86 - Danae blundell - ra23 celica
    top exterior post 86 - bronwyn kelly - is200
    top engine bay pre 86 - Danae blundell - ra23 celica
    top engine bay post 86 - elija bendiscue (iilja bendevski... spelling) - hilux

    then you have the categories....
    stock
    street
    modified

    these are a total of all the points from exterior, int, engine bay so by default alot of the car that won above would feature....

    there are 3 age categories.... clasic (i think) modern and late model...
    i dont remember all of these and a few werent well represented....

    Stock late model - lisette (sorry cant remember) - echo
    stock modern - stitty - crown
    street late model - bronwyn kelly - is200
    street modern - dave mcneil - gt4
    classic modified - Danae blundell - ra23 celica
    modern modified - illja - hilux
    late model modified - matt bently - is200

    top modified overall (highest show points) - matt bently - is200

    top coupe - Danae blundell - ra23 celica
    top hatch - Craig (english?? memory sorry craig...) - ra28 - go the 28!!!!
    top ute - iilja - hilux
    top import - stitty - crown
    best sleeper - Greg white - cressida
    best family hack - Steve?? wagonist... (sorry mate... so many names) - caldina
    under construction - Duncan - hilux....

    entrants choice - richard - race ra23

    i may have missed a couple.... and spelling... sorry, this is off the top of my head.

    motokhana.. also from memory.... (cant remember too many of the runners up... sorry)

    4 cyl rwd - steve pembrey....spelling? - sprinter (and i reackon most popular drives - it was awesome to watch!!!)
    Runner up 4 CYL RWD: Shane Paton

    6 cyl rwd - Teon - red supra - another awesome effort.... very neat.
    Runner up 6 CYL RWD: Adam McNeil

    8 cyl rwd - Stewart white - cressida
    8 cyl rwd runner up - Justen - GT8 celica

    4 wd - steve - caldina
    Runner up AWD: Nathan Skelly

    Fastest female - Bronwyn Kelly
    Runner up Fastest Female: Vanessa Ford


    Over all

    Fastest before scaling or whatever it is was Steve in the Caldina.

    Awarded places

    1st - Tion - jza80 supra
    2nd - stewart white cressida
    3rd - steve pembrey - sprinter

    And Top Toyota which was a combination of show and motokhana - Matt Bently - is200
    it had the highest over all show result, and then was flogged by 2 different drivers all day in the Khana... with a few very quick runs... as well as some spectactular slower... but smokier runs!!!!

    Top club effort - Canberra boys (cant remember the nameing....)

    Nathan Dean memorial trophy - Blake - ra23 celica

    If any off this is wrong ill change it... as i said i didnt write anything down.... this is off the top off my head... so sorry if i got it wrong, spelt your name wrong, or left you out totally....

    Cheers
    Stew
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToySprinta
    And TRD184, thanks for the limp wrist piccie

    The trip back to canberra took close to 7 hours!! Breakdowns out the front of every Police station we went past
    Resulting in a sideways smoke show when leaving again?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8
    Top weekend, which was never in doubt.

    All my return trip issues happened within a few km's of home Bommiedoor tow car dropped to 4 cyls...the unburnt fuel made the exhaust so hot it popped one of the air leveler bags in the rear springs Cash for good pics of GT8
    Sell you a VP sedan cheap (or exchange for getting a towbar for the Caldina made up ). Just finished fitting the towbar yesterday arvo.

    Got a few pics where I was doing fast shots during the khana (trying to figure out a way to get them to Alchemist).

    Ditto for a request for motorkhana pics or vids (preferably during the damp run when I could get the handbrake & rear torsen diff to work for me instead of inducing understeer)

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    The wagon was an animal out there!!!!

    its an awesome ride.... and was well driven. i would like to see unscaled results on the khana... i read the supp regs, and it sounds like it could make a huge difference. particuarly if one group had alot of good drivers (fast/experienced) and another had drivers that took their time, but were slow, but still made no mistakes.

    If serious drivers all bought 4x4 to compete with.... and there was one good driver in a class of slow cars.... the good driver in the slow class would get a massive scaling.

    That system would probably work well in a motokhana event - where all the drivers came there to drive and are into it.... but at the toynats where alot of people would never do it other wise, but gave it a go there.... some classes would benefit.

    ANYWAYS - it was all in the supp regs....

    But congrats again on the OUTRIGHT fastest time!!!

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    Yeah fuck me that Richard Dreyfuss/Steve can drive.



    I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel to Mr hollands Opus:

    Mr Hollands Caldina.





    One of the other highlights was Steve almost getting bogged in that giant mud hole on the side of the road!
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    They cash in the empty can of whoopass they received in SA and receive 10c's per punch...
    They have to accrew enough for nose reconstructions as well as feeding his mime family. The dont talk much so they never need much water for their dry mouths.

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    I would love to see some videos put up (on U-Tube in hidef if possible) of the weekend. Sadly my camera stayed in the car on the day due to the work involved in running the khana this year so I have nothing to provide (still have stuff from last year though. )

    I can confirm the placings though..

    Runner up 4 CYL RWD: Shane Paton
    Runner up 6 CYL RWD: Adam McNeil
    Runner up AWD: Nathan Skelly
    Runner up Fastest Female: Vanessa Ford

    Shame noone with FWD cars entered this year (excluding the magna in Come and Try) as they would've taken out their categories..
    I tried to convince Brian to enter with the 'hired' Aurion, but he elected not to.


    Also, in regards to outright (before handicapping) times, the top order would have started:
    Steve Wandell (195.05 AWD)
    Stewart White (198.55 8 CYL)
    Stephen Pembrey (199.01 RWD 4)
    Teon Harasynmiv (205.72 RWD 6)
    Nathan Skelly (207.05 AWD)
    Ben Haines (208.07 AWD)
    Adam McNeil (214.76 RWD 6)
    Lester Dylan (220.27 AWD)
    Shane Paton (223.81 RWD 4)
    Bronwyn Kelly (224.94 RWD 6)

    I'm just waiting on getting the database back from the secretary so we can get all the timing information to the Nationals guys hopefully by the end of the week.
    It's a long drive back from Dubbo...
    Our car left at just before 5am and arrived back in Adelaide at 5:00pm (5:30pm EST).
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    yeah, should've gotten a pic of the wheel ruts
    You can't half tell that I lived out that way for a couple of years
    And I was eyeing off the paddock until we all decided to scamper.

    Now to invest in that WRC gearbox where the tailshaft gets disconnected when the handbrake is pulled.

    It would be interesting to see the results based on the "normal" way a motorkhana is scored. ie the best run of each course is added up. I think it'd be a lot closer (& I doubt I'd be at the top).
    I asked about the weighting at the end, and basically because they weren't many AWDs & we were all fairly close (except for Dave apparently ) it drove the average for our class way up.

    Good fun though

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagonist

    yeah, should've gotten a pic of the wheel ruts
    You can't half tell that I lived out that way for a couple of years
    And I was eyeing off the paddock until we all decided to scamper.

    That would have been hilarious.

    grant would have had to of been there with a rope just in case, that mud was thick as.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuzzo View Post
    They cash in the empty can of whoopass they received in SA and receive 10c's per punch...
    They have to accrew enough for nose reconstructions as well as feeding his mime family. The dont talk much so they never need much water for their dry mouths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DARKMAZE
    Shame noone with FWD cars entered this year (excluding the magna in Come and Try) as they would've taken out their categories..
    I tried to convince Brian to enter with the 'hired' Aurion, but he elected not to.
    It's a long drive back from Dubbo...
    Our car left at just before 5am and arrived back in Adelaide at 5:00pm (5:30pm EST).
    There was a perfectly good Echo in the carpark which would've been PERFECT for this event. Small light FWD with a rear handbrake.

    You did well for 12.5 hrs. It's a long haul. I think it was something like 17 hrs from Sydney.
    Thanks for making the trek & running the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomvale13
    That would have been hilarious.

    grant would have had to of been there with a rope just in case, that mud was thick as.
    nah, out that way the paddock would usually be just a slippery surface down a couple of cm.
    The table drain was deeper because that where the water was channelled & it just sits in there soaking through. I was just hoping that Ben in the black GT4 had gone far enough forward so I could get out to a harder surface. Otherwise that strap across the Crown ute's tray was going to get a workout.

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    Can we see the times for Stitty & Jase in the Magna lol.
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    You can find out Jases with the following formula:

    Jases time = Stitts time - 27 seconds.

    *insert hug for Jase here*
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuzzo View Post
    They cash in the empty can of whoopass they received in SA and receive 10c's per punch...
    They have to accrew enough for nose reconstructions as well as feeding his mime family. The dont talk much so they never need much water for their dry mouths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RONA
    Can we see the times for Stitty & Jase in the Magna lol.
    Next time Jase won't help Stitt with the handbrake.
    That result actually really surprised me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toy77
    If .... there was one good driver in a class of slow cars.... the good driver in the slow class would get a massive scaling.

    That system would probably work well in a motokhana event - where all the drivers came there to drive and are into it.... but at the toynats where alot of people would never do it other wise, but gave it a go there.... some classes would benefit.

    ANYWAYS - it was all in the supp regs....
    You did hit the nail on the head there Stew. The idea being that the times are all compared against an average driver in an average car. This was done due to the selection of classes and not having previous records. The idea was that those who were not out there to be 'serious' would enter the come and try event as if you were not being serious, you don't need to pay the extra to be in the competetive competition as you couldn't seriously expect to win.

    However, now that we have times from tests for this year, we'll likely use a percentage of the class 'record' on a test for next years event to give the DPI instead of the comparison to the class average.

    Having said all that, I think the system actually did work rather well looking at the times standalone.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomvale13
    You can find out Jases with the following formula:

    Jases time = Stitts time - 27 seconds.
    That should read "Jases time = Stitts time + 27 seconds"
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