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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    wagonist -
    Nope, no change has been made to my alignment or suspension recently... one of the mechanics did a brief check, seeing if there was any slack etc., he found nothing obvious.

    The only changes that had been done to it (no accidents.. that I know of) is that about 2 yrs ago i had new suspension put in (eibach/koni), with polyurethane bushes, and a fairly extreme camber.. and then there was the problem of the urethane bush not fitting on one of those suspension arms, and the normal original rubber bush being left in at that point.

    Thanks for the advice with checking the hub, I might do that and make a trip to a wrecker.

    Does anyone maintain a list of known wreckers in Sydney with AW11 parts?

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    for wheel bearings try bursons auto parts or cbc bearings, they are fairly well priced,try mechanical help from a toy modder to replace these,as these parts haves been diagnosedn to be faulty-that the wheel bearing seems to have too much freeplay and movement.get this fixed first as drive shaft/wheel bearing issues can give difficult problems to diagnose,see if the noise has gone then worry about the possibility of a more expensive repair.

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    Hi, I too have been having some similar problems.

    I have noticed a loud noise coming from the rear of the car, like a angle grinder. Didn't seem to be the wheel bearing. The disc rotor had a few groves but I sorted them out, wasn't anything major so no machining was required, don't think that could have been it but yet to put it all back and drive.

    1. I jacked the car up on the rear wheels and turned it on, put it into drive to check for any unusual noises. I noticed that there was a loud noise where the differential joined onto the left CV shaft, I also noticed that the left CV shaft was a bit bent, as it rotated there was a bit of sideways movement of about 2 or 3mm. I removed the left rear CV and inspected it, didn't seem to be any play in the bearing. Turned the car back in to see if the noise was still there, Put it into drive again and the noise was coming from the diff. I took the diff out and checked for play, it was minimal, much less than my spare diff that did not make the same noise. I suspect that it could be something loose inside. A corolla diff that I opened back in the day had a little metal piece that had broken off.

    2. There was a vibration that I had noticed around the front seats. I suspected this to be my center drive shaft connection/bearing? (correct me on name), not a uni joint though. I noticed that this rotates on a rubber seat, thick rubber. I tried to move this joint up and down, and with minimal force it happily moved up and down and knocked. This leads me to think that the rubber seat it sits on is worn, and needs to be replaced.

    3. I noticed where the driveshaft begins, where it connects into the transmission, there is a bit of looseness, but no up/down or left/right play. When I turn it, it feels loose, there is some slack. I checked this on my other car that is the same model, and it did not feel that loose. What could this be, and should I be worried?

    Thanks.

    Any comments?

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    Double post.

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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    If its the wheel bearing he is ripping you off with that price. Get the bearing from CBC, $60 which includes seal kit. Grab another hub from a corolla from same era, they are the same hub, press the spindle out of both hubs, replace bearing and press iin the corolla spindle. Even with it out the car, if you take it to a mechanic to have the pressing done it shouldnt cost you any more than $20. I just did mine on the rear and did exactly as i described, very easy and cheap job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z2TT
    Hi, I too have been having some similar problems.

    I have noticed a loud noise coming from the rear of the car, like a angle grinder. Didn't seem to be the wheel bearing. The disc rotor had a few groves but I sorted them out, wasn't anything major so no machining was required, don't think that could have been it but yet to put it all back and drive.

    1. I jacked the car up on the rear wheels and turned it on, put it into drive to check for any unusual noises. I noticed that there was a loud noise where the differential joined onto the left CV shaft, I also noticed that the left CV shaft was a bit bent, as it rotated there was a bit of sideways movement of about 2 or 3mm. I removed the left rear CV and inspected it, didn't seem to be any play in the bearing. Turned the car back in to see if the noise was still there, Put it into drive again and the noise was coming from the diff. I took the diff out and checked for play, it was minimal, much less than my spare diff that did not make the same noise. I suspect that it could be something loose inside. A corolla diff that I opened back in the day had a little metal piece that had broken off.

    2. There was a vibration that I had noticed around the front seats. I suspected this to be my center drive shaft connection/bearing? (correct me on name), not a uni joint though. I noticed that this rotates on a rubber seat, thick rubber. I tried to move this joint up and down, and with minimal force it happily moved up and down and knocked. This leads me to think that the rubber seat it sits on is worn, and needs to be replaced.

    3. I noticed where the driveshaft begins, where it connects into the transmission, there is a bit of looseness, but no up/down or left/right play. When I turn it, it feels loose, there is some slack. I checked this on my other car that is the same model, and it did not feel that loose. What could this be, and should I be worried?

    Thanks.

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    to be honest it sounds liek you have "drifted" into a gutter and may have major damage.
    driveshafts are not that easy to bend.
    maybe it is time to have a major check, and see what else is damaged?
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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    Also, getting the rear end of your car slayed by the gutter dragon is not much (read: anything) like an MR2 transaxle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas
    to be honest it sounds liek you have "drifted" into a gutter
    No

    driveshafts are not that easy to bend.
    maybe it is time to have a major check, and see what else is damaged?
    It wasn't the drive shaft that was bent, it was one of the rear CV shafts coming from the diff. As for the driveshaft,

    Today I checked the center bearing and rubber housing on the center of the driveshaft. There is about 1-2cm of play up and down where the drive shaft sits on this rubber housing. Is this normal, or should there be no play at all?.

    The center drive shaft bearing I checked too it's perfect.

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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    Quote Originally Posted by Z2TT
    It wasn't the drive shaft that was bent, it was one of the rear CV shafts coming from the diff. As for the driveshaft, I checked the centre bearing and rubber housing. There is about 1cm of play up and down where the drive shaft sits on this rubber seat. Is this normal, or should there be no play at all?.

    The center drive shaft bearing I checked too it's perfect.
    i mean tdriveshaft in the FWD sense = going from diff to wheel...(and CV's to boot!)

    they are not easy to bend... you need to hit something hard to bend them (could you even do it with a hammer?)

    what rubber seat? if your XXshafts are wobbling around at all, there is something wrong...

    can you get someone to have a look at it for you?
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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    Actually this is on a RWD. I have not known what the previous owner has done or of any accident history as I'm the first owner since import.

    Rubber seat on the centre of the drive shaft, I can get a pic to show you.
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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    i know it is RWD, but for some reason i called the shaft which transmit drive to the wheels, via CV joints, a driveshaft.


    anyway, please take pictures of each thing that is farked or wobbling around, and draw on ti the directions it moves and how much by.
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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    Hi,

    Picture of the rubber seat :



    See those 2 big bolts toward the left of the picture, they hold a metal surround, which inside has a round rubber seat where the drive shaft sits, I have drawn a line pointing to the rubber seat. There is 1-2cm of Up/down play.

    Ignore those 2 red marks on the uni-joint flange.

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    It's your centre bearing. If it moves up and down, it is fucked. Replace it. Seems pretty logical really.
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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    The bearing's fine, but it seems that the rubber housing that shaft sits on is worn away, I'm not sure if this was causing the vibration. The Supra MK3 TSRM didn't mention anything about this also.

    I'll have to see if the Supra MK3 uses the same assembly because I'm not going Toyota Genuine.
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    Default Re: How much $ to open up an AW11 4AGE Gearbox, fixing a loose and squeaky drive shaft..

    Pretty sure it's all one peice.

    Doubt it's the same. Tried aftermarket?
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