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    Default Car losing traction in wet a lot

    Hello,

    I have noticed my Z20 loses traction in the wet. Tonight while I was onto a main road from a petrol station onto a slightly uphill road, the rear wheels just couldnt stop spinning, I had to rev it up real slowly.

    Not sure this is normal or there may be something wrong with my car.

    Here is some info on my car :

    GZ20 with 1g-gte
    Non LSD
    Bridgestone Grid II's 205/55R16 85, with 80% Thread.
    BBS RS 16" Rims.
    Bilstein Shocks from JZA70

    Any Help?
    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    according to your other thread, perhaps the nerves to your foot are broken


    have you checked the camber and toe of the rear wheels? especially after you fucked up and smashed the car into a curb?

    if the rear wheels are pointing in funny directions, or moving under load, you are a danger to everyone (more than usual )
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    Double LOL
    that is all

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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    I suspect there is an issue with the soft squishy part that occupies the space between the steering wheel and the seat

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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    i think i saw ya spinning your wheels on wanneroo road (near main st) around 7:30pm?

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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    just in case you mmissed it when getting your licence....
    http://www.safety.com/articles/how-t...wet-roads.html

    How to Drive Safely on Wet Roads
    Each year, there are thousands of car accidents (some of them fatal) due to wet roads and poor driving conditions in the rain. Don't become a statistic. Here are some practical tips to help you know how to recognize dangerous conditions and drive safely when the road gets wet.

    Why is Driving in the Rain So Risky?
    As the road gets wet, oil and grime that have settled into the pavement rise to the surface. The road gets extremely slick and slippery, making it more difficult to get traction.

    Slow Down
    Your best thing you can do to prevent an accident on a slick road is to slow down. When you drive slowly, a greater amount of the tire's tread makes contact with the road, giving you better traction. Try to drive at a steady pace, and avoid jerky movements when braking, accelerating, or turning.

    Keep a Safe Distance from the Car in Front of You
    It takes up to three times longer to stop on a wet road than a dry one, even if your tires are designed for wet weather and are of good quality. Remember:

    Don't trail closely behind other vehicles; three car-lengths is a safe distance to be behind a vehicle that's in front of you
    Be alert for brake lights ahead of you
    Always turn on your headlights so that other cars can see you
    Drive without the cruise control; it will help you to be more aware
    What to Do if You Lose Control of Your Car
    If your car starts to skid, try this:

    Don't slam on the brakes
    Apply the brakes in a firm but steady manner
    Steer in the direction of the skid
    If your car has anti-lock brakes, apply more pressure to the brakes but do not pump them
    If there is water on the road, you may be in danger of losing control of your car due to hydroplaning. Hydroplaning occurs when your tires glide across the surface of the water on the road. If you start to hydroplane:

    Take your foot off the gas, but don't slam on the brakes
    If you have a manual transmission, push down on the clutch and let the car slow down on its own
    If you have automatic transmission, hold the steering wheel steady and lightly apply the brakes

    Don't Drive if You're Tired or Distracted
    Driving in wet weather requires extreme alertness, particularly at night. If you're tired, find a safe place to pull over and take a rest. Avoid distractions such as eating, drinking, talking on the phone, fiddling with the radio, or handing items to children in the back seat -- anything where you need to take one or both hands off the wheel.

    Get Your Tires Checked
    Driving with bad (or bald) tires can only make things worse. Try this:

    Check your tires regularly for tread wear; the treads should be at least 1/16 in depth to perform safely in the rain
    Have the air pressure checked at least once a month
    Have the mechanic rotate the tires as part of your routine maintenance to ensure even wear
    If you live in an area with a lot of wet weather, consider investing in a tire that's specially designed for slicker road conditions.
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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    this thread is quite humerous to say the least.....perhaps this is the problem....- Bilstein Shocks from JZA70
    im asuming used, ,maybe the F****ed and time to get newies, even then, that shouldnt be happening...maybe you just driving on oily wet roads that you dont know about?
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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    get new tyres.

    im a fan of potenza's.

    245/19's that were factory fitment.

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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    Tyres are good, actually the rears are 225's at the back Sorry.
    When I smashed the kerb months ago it was on the front wheels, dont think that should affect losing traction in the rear.

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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    get the rear alignment checked anyway.. unless your tyres are old and hard or just crap, or the roads you are driving on have been covered in diesel...

    or you have a very unsympathetic roght foot

    there are not many reasons for losing traction apart from poor rear alignment causing the wheels to fight each other (ie, one MUST lose traction), or too much pawahz
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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    i had some of those tyres in 225's they suck the arse.
    when they are new they are tip top but after a while they turn to concrete.
    new tyres, problem solved.

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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    Drive to the conditions.

    That is all.
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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    The main things that effect traction are:
    • Tyres
    • Tyre pressures
    • Ground conditions
    • Gearing
    • Weight on driving wheels (in this case rear)
    • Weight bias
    • Total car weight
    • Angle of hill 45 ° = half as much psi of tire forcing into the ground
    • Suspension eg, shocks, springs
    • Suspension locating setup, also independent suspension (including front wheel isolation)
    • Engine torque
    • Driver control
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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    Quote Originally Posted by Z2TT
    Tyres are good, actually the rears are 225's at the back Sorry.
    When I smashed the kerb months ago it was on the front wheels, dont think that should affect losing traction in the rear.
    tyres being new and tyres being good are 2 very different things.
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    Default Re: Car losing traction in wet a lot

    Quote Originally Posted by MR22ZZ
    tyres being new and tyres being good are 2 very different things.
    Correct...

    If you have been loosing traction in a more "purposeful" manner (bunouts, sideways action, etc) it can sometimes give the tyres a glazing effect where the rubber goes to a more solid state and are rendered useless...
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