3SGE No Acceleration (video Available)

[greywolf]

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I've relinked his photos in what I THINK is the order he was refering to.

EDIT : Whoops beat me to it

[greywolf]

As an aside, your problem with smoke issuing from the inlet is EXACTLY what happened to my 5S-FE. Unfortunately she is still sitting in my front yard waiting for some attention, but if I do get around to it soon maybe the causes are similar enough we can find a solution together.4

EDIT : Oh I should get that fuel pressure tester/vac tester in the mail either tomorrow or Thursday.

[Jester]

thanks for clearing those links up for me greywolf. and for sending me the guage.

My problem is i don't understand how the fuel can be getting into the rail. I just don't get it.
there's no way for the fuel to get from that line into the Rail when it's hooked around the damper unless it seeps through the thread, i don't understand how it can possibly be getting in there.

the damper is hollow but how does the fuel manage to get into the rail if it's hooked around it and fuel goes out through the smaller line?

[petergoudie]

It's me again. I asked you to put the screw driver down the spark plug hole. I also note someone else mentioned valve timing.

Since I last put a message up I went to a one night training course. I learnt something I never knew. Some engines do not have a key to locate the main pulley in position. To set up the pulley & valve timing you need a bundle of special tools to locate everything then tighten the bolt holding the pulley on. This might explain someone else's comment about why some pulleys are on so tight.

Anyway, can someone else look at the photos with the screw driver in the spark plug hole. The zero mark on the pulley & the notch is OK. But when I look at the cam lobes I thought they should be further around. I thought the pointy part of the lobe should be almost 90 or 180 degrees away from the valve but your photo does not show this. If you had inadvertantly chosen number four cylinder rather than number one there will be a difference in lobe positions but your number four lobes are not at 90 or 180 degrees either.

I think you should look at what is happening with the valve opening and turn the engine over by hand several times with one hand and a glass of red in the other.

[oldcorollas]

the damper is hollow but how does the fuel manage to get into the rail if it's hooked around it and fuel goes out through the smaller line?

i can't remember if mine had a hole or not but i think it may not.

i noticed that on the fuel banjo for the inlet, the banjo hole is different size on either side.
the side that went against the rail was smaller, and the side that went against the damper was larger.
if you turn the damper upside down, can you see holes that let fuel go up? can you take a pic of the damper, looking from the threaded side of it?
i think there might be 4 slots or similar, for fuel to go up, and then go down, thru the hollow bolt part.

also check which side of the banjo fitting has the larger hole, and that there is not a washer that is too wide on the side with the larger hole....
these could stop fuel getting in.
i can't remember if the washer on that side has kind of fingers to space it out from the threaded section or not.. it has been about 3 or 4 years since i last played with one

as a check step, you could grab a plain old banjo bolt, with the hole (as long as the head is big enough to fit over and seal the fitting), and see if fuel gets in that way?

[Jester]

Um...there is no Banjo fitting.
the only Banjo fitting is on either side of the cold start injector line and the end of the line attached to the fuel filter. this is why i think it is wrong. there are no channels, just one hollow damper

Posting a pic of Damper now


Ok so talking to Horse and he's just checked the part number and it's come up as being part of the 1G-FE engine, how the hell it got on my 3S-GE i have no Idea

EDIT:
Apologies to OC, I couldn't quite understand what you were getting at with the talk about banjo fitting, i understand now but, so sorry

[horse]

damper is fail.
replacement part on its way.

correction. mechanics who did the swap have placed the smaller crush washer on the wrong side of banjo fitting and it has thus been pushed up into the damper covering and blocking the fuel from going in.

love their work. top class.

[oldcorollas]

damper is fail?
arrrgh, mechanics are stupid (sometimes)

does the fuel line go from filter to cold start? surely it should go from filter to fuel rail, and a seperate line go from rail to cold start?

didn7t have the washer with four inner pegs like this?

[horse]

Filter > Rail > CSI & Injectors > Reg > Return line.

CSI is tapped off the fuel rail. so there must have been some fuel seeping in there but not enough.

[oldcorollas]

ahh, so when it was almost cathing in last vid, there was just enough fuel to dribble into CSI and give a hint of starting?

fingers crossed!

[Jester]

Moment of truth approaching.
Stay posted, about to reconnect battery and we'll see what happens

[Aust162]

Any updates??!!

[Jester]

Yeah i put battery in and tried to start it and all fuel pissed out the rail, Damper wasn't down tight enough and broken O ring on the 4th injector, So i had to pull it all out again, replace the O Ring and now it's back to erratic idling.

I must have screwed those washers up but i don't remember doing it.

Have a video of current condition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FL4PkAXKJE

Ideas?
I'm so Heart Broken

[oldcorollas]

how are the washers arranged now?

hmm, that video is hypnotic
soudn slike a rotary

oh, did the workshop change the timing belt? could the cams be out a tooth or two?
also seems odd that with throttle, it does the rev up thing..... still sorta seems like there is no fuel perhaps? hmmmmmm
don7t give up just yet!

[Jester]

the washers are now arranged the toothed one up top and the normal one on the bottom, but now it leaks. i may have done it up too tight i think. can you do that?

and yeah the throttle thing is weird, you open it all the way and nothing happens!
Just sits there advancing itself still. got me confused good.

Belt was changed but fairly certain that's all good, posted pics of my timing settings a few posts back, i think post #77 it was