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    Default Re: 1977 Celica RA23 engine, question

    Oh, i thought you were saying VL Turbo Brakes. Hrmm, will look into the rx7, vl turbo upgrade

    And I never used 206 rotors, or atleast i asked for different ones, like a 406 or 506 or something... And i had them machined down to 273mm or something around that.. But deff not 255mm...

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    Default Re: 1977 Celica RA23 engine, question

    Non turbo 6 VL (270mm) can also be used for use under smaller rims (15"), same amount of work, just a smaller bracket for the callipers. Depends what you want, and if the extra rotating mass is worth it for the extra stopping power of the 290mm turbo discs.
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    Hi,

    it's pug 604 rotors, they were also used on 505's and 504's but the versions of those models were not seen in australia. I found a guy yesterday that normally stocks the rotors and i bought the last pair he had. Said he should have more in a couple of weeks/months.

    EDIT pug 206 99-01 are close, 20.5mm thick though. 02 onwards are 24mm thick. If you could get the 91 onwards hilux calipers they are to accomodate a 25mm rotor. Haven't found any yet though.

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    Probly get shot for suggesting this, but you could always stick an SR20DE/T... The non turbo would fit your P Plater bill if your resticted, and the engine can be had cheaply. Turbo can be added later, and it has heaps of aftermarket bits.

    Still a 4 cylinder, lighter (I assume) than the 1J, already RWD (if someone is going to say just use a 3SGTE). Grind off the Nissan and I don't see a problem.

    I know of a TA22 with an SR20 here over in WA, and there was a RA28 over east that had an SR20DET with a roll cage.
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    Hi,

    not really a bad idea, except it's not a toyota. but, meh. Common as dog poo too!

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    Default Re: 1977 Celica RA23 engine, question

    SR20 is fine if you don't require your anal virginity.

    Thanks for the correction on the rotor too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23
    SR20 is fine if you don't require your anal virginity.
    You have been warned that o_man may / maynot be handing out free supprise butt sex to those that stick anything bar a toyota engine in their car...


    Quote Originally Posted by roadkill
    Hi,

    not really a bad idea, except it's not a toyota. but, meh. Common as dog poo too!

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    Like the 1G conversion, and the 1J engines arn't?
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    Default Re: 1977 Celica RA23 engine, question

    I currently have a GA28 and i'm pretty happy with it, engine is stock but have plans for some upgrades.

    -- BUT --

    If I had my time over again I would have researched the 1mz, 3mz and 2gr engines.

    The 2gr is a lot newer so it's probably a bit harder to get a hold of, electronics would be more complicated and it would be more expensive.

    The 1mz and 3mz with a turbo or supercharger on it would be a very mean bit of kit. Being v6 they should sit near the back of the bay, should be quite efficient and they have decent figures even as NA motors. I guess the height of the engine could be a problem and i'm not sure about laws and engine capacities.

    I know they aren't in your choices list but it's food for thought
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    Hi,

    that's cool, been hunting massively for the pub/rona/lux conversion. getting there slowly!! Just need the coilover bitz now!!

    I like my assginity, but i'm gonna use my 18rg, so i get to keep it. And my balls'll get bigger!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre
    Like the 1G conversion, and the 1J engines arn't?
    Just relating to the fact that it shouldn't be terribly expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadkill
    Just relating to the fact that it shouldn't be terribly expensive.

    bEn
    Gotcha.

    RA coilovers are pretty simple. Just get some RT132 struts, and order a coilover kit from the toymods sponser (cant remember the name...) .I prefer to get the weldable sleeves over the alloy perch.
    Quote Originally Posted by CLG
    It's a good system in theory, but it's fucked.

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    Yes but its still a performance enhancement from factory. So i dont beleive NSW will allow this...

    They arent even alowed air filters and extractors nor are they allowed anything computer related, cams, cam gears or anything that enhances performance of the engine!

    I think the sr20 is a great idea, and weighs 60kgs less than a 1jz, full engine and gearbox packages!
    Have been doing research as to stick a sr20det or a 1jz into a datsun 240z... Im keen on the 1jz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre
    Gotcha.

    RA coilovers are pretty simple. Just get some RT132 struts, and order a coilover kit from the toymods sponser (cant remember the name...) .I prefer to get the weldable sleeves over the alloy perch.
    Hi,

    got the the struts, just gotta start pulling them apart, it's for a ta22 though. Who did the steel sleeves on here? Pm me so i stop hijacking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey228
    Have been doing research as to stick a sr20det or a 1jz into a datsun 240z... Im keen on the 1jz

    Cheers,
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    240Z's came out with a 6, so a replacement newer 6 would be the go. Ie a RB25/26! Ive seen a couple over here in perth and from what I was told, alot of the later nissan gear bolts up to the 240/260's. 5 stud big brake kits, skyline diffs, etc etc are a pretty straightforward conversion apparently.

    My old man has been dreaming an RB25/26 240Z two seater for yonkers...
    Quote Originally Posted by CLG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre
    240Z's came out with a 6, so a replacement newer 6 would be the go. Ie a RB25/26! Ive seen a couple over here in perth and from what I was told, alot of the later nissan gear bolts up to the 240/260's. 5 stud big brake kits, skyline diffs, etc etc are a pretty straightforward conversion apparently.

    My old man has been dreaming an RB25/26 240Z two seater for yonkers...
    Yeh the rb25 is pretty simple, bar you gotta get a rear sump and modify the pick up. and i think it needs mounts. I know the sr20 needs mounts made up...

    But as the 1j comes rear sumped, it should be as easy as the sr20 swap... And far more gains to be had out of it as its makes massive power comparitely...

    The rb25 also weights like 100 pounds more then 1jz, i.e. rb25 weighs 605 pounds complete. 1jz weighed something like 490 pounds, sr20 weighed 340 or something...

    Thats taken from the hybridz.com webstie, which is more or less a datsun community by the look of it...

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