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    Default engine upgrades what is max?

    hi was just wondering what is the biggest turbo charged engine you can put in a corolla
    ke55 and get it past through the engineers? i was talking to this guy and he said that the max you can go is the weight of the car from factory x 2.5 is this true and what engine would you guys sujest i wana keep it a toyota engine but if worse comes to worse il drop a sr20det in her if it will pass
    thanks for any help cheers

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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    2.2l turbo
    2.6l n/a
    KE38 - 2TG
    MS65 - 1UZ

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    Cheers mate. What turbo charged engine would you recomened?And are conversions difficult? cheers. thanks again for the help

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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    4A-GZE with turbo conversion (1.6 litres)
    3S-GTE (2 litres) (or use a 5S-FE bottom end for 2.2litres)

    Plenty have carried out both of these conversions, browse the members' rides for variations on these, some would be in different vehicles, but the principles would be the same.

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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    or if you want a challenge, you could drop a 1g-gte in it.

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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    3s = expensive to setup, BUT proven reliable, OFF THE SHELF PARTS!

    1g = cheap, but getting old, BUT a tough motor!, but most perfomenace parts are custom made,

    SR20's.....good...old technology, cheap parts, but need alot of parts to make power required.(my opinion they are very overated!)

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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    haha i got a 1g in mine so i guess ill say that, but otherwise i would say sr20det for cheap and easy to fit... its only a corolla so who cares what motor goes in it
    KE38 - 2TG
    MS65 - 1UZ

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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    Thanks for the help everyone
    What work is needed for the 4agze turbo upgrade? obviously new engine mounts, exhaust manifold and down pipe, lines oil supply and drain, but what about the ecu? and the ke55 were can i find out the original weight of the car from factory? so i can do this equation for the engineers....
    cheers

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    should be in the manual.

    sr20's are noisy and rattle heaps.

    1g in celica = quick as with some basic mods.
    1g in corolla = holy shit

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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    According to drive.com.au the kerb weight of a KE55 is 875kg but check on your rego papers. I think it would be more like 890-900kg.
    Talk to cuzzo on here as he has done a 4agte in a KE30 (will be same for KE55). It is engineered and rego'ed in NSW. His members rides thread is here.
    For engine mounts for 4ag into KE30 see here. Again, it will be the same for the KE55.
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    thanks so much everyone i will take everything into acount for my final decision but i really do wana keep the toyota a toyota down to engine ect.. thanks everyone cheers..

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    well guys and gals i have just checked my rego papers, and because the car is engineered for the 3t/2tg engine it went over the weigh bridge and this weight is now on my papers 1040 kg pretty heavey i thought..... does anyone know the tare weight for the ke55 sedan? i need this to find out max engine size upgrade with my engineers.. i really wana drop a 1jz gte in her but i only want to put this engine in if it can be past by my engineer... he said original tare weight times 2.5 and this is max for turbo engine upgrade..i have already currently completed suspention, diff and brake upgrades this was done for the current engine..

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    at 1040 it would be possible as th celias re like 1070 and cm c60cc of being ableto put a 2jz in.

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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    just call the RTA tech section, they have the weights that are used for calculation of the engine size.
    stop farking about

    what weight it is now has no bearing on the allowable engine size.

    if you are asking how much is involved in an engine conversion, i suggest you spend some time looking around. it is straigthforward if you know what you are doing.

    ECU, will be stock... unless your engineer allows you to put in an aftermarket one..

    in fact.. find an engineer first and talk to them. they will tell you what you can/cannot and are required to do.
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    Default Re: engine upgrades what is max?

    860kg is ke30's
    no way in hell you will get a 1jzgte legally registered and engineered in nsw...
    mine weighs 1080kg with big diff brakes electric seats and a 1ggte in it
    KE38 - 2TG
    MS65 - 1UZ

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