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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    Any feedback on how they drive? I presume a bit rougher than standard rods due to no bushes?

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    I haven't driven much since this, and have been paying more attention to the differences that the swaybars have made than paying attention to the steering.

    Having said that, I haven't noticed any increased roughness at all. I don't really see how you would have increased roughness anyway, as unlike most other bushing replacements, it isn't directly damping any suspension component. I think these can only improve ride, actually, as the strut is more free to move vertically (and no longer free to have horizontal slop, thus keeping castor constant), and isn't restricted by the binding of the castor rod bushes. To make it trickier for me to tell, though, I had poly castor rod bushes there before rather than stock worn rubber, and also have poly lower control arm bushes. Steering is slightly lighter off centre (perhaps the castor was inadvertently changed, though we set them to the same length as the stock ones). This could well be a benefit of the castor now remaining constant. Another thing that might be hiding the effect of these is that I already had very direct steering feel - spherical bearings in camber tops, manual rack with power steering arms...

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    Quote Originally Posted by WDE_BDY
    Any feedback on how they drive? I presume a bit rougher than standard rods due to no bushes?

    Callum
    I havn't noticed any extra roughness with mine either. Stef and that guy who first did it on cs.com summed it up well. The strut feels like it moves more freely and the spring/shock combo is now doing all the work.

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    Interesting, I may need to invest in a set for my Starlet. Wasn't sure how they would cope on rough gravel roads though.

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    Ah, i havn't taken mine on ANY gravel roads. Stefan would best be able to answer that then cuss my supra aint going near any gravel roads ever.

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectl

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan
    Stupidly no, but I'm happy to take one for you (and/or I could measure the clearance from the 22RE sump to the bar).

    Any photos etc. would be great, otherwise a measurement from the front of the crossmember to the centre of the bar would be very handy

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    this is all well and good for the IRS guys, but is there much difference to the RA60 and its dirty live axle?

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectl

    Quote Originally Posted by beatle
    this is all well and good for the IRS guys, but is there much difference to the RA60 and its dirty live axle?
    I... don't understand your question. Are you referring to the rear swaybar? Won't fit. All the front end components will though.

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    great idea stef!

    i'm definatley keen to get some of those rods for the JZA65, along with some solid bushes i have to make for the steer rack, getting some icked travel on the crossmember!

    i've found with p/s arms alone on a manual rack celica, you will never need more lock and also makes the steering so much quicker (having both a stock auto powersteered celica and my drift car easy to tell the diff)
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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectl

    Quote Originally Posted by timottaway
    i've found with p/s arms alone on a manual rack celica, you will never need more lock and also makes the steering so much quicker (having both a stock auto powersteered celica and my drift car easy to tell the diff)
    Yup. Power arms on manual rack is a GREAT upgrade for lots of reasons.

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectl

    Quote Originally Posted by mrshin
    Any photos etc. would be great, otherwise a measurement from the front of the crossmember to the centre of the bar would be very handy
    Sorry it took me a while to do this:
    • Front of crossmember to centre of bar = 260mm
    • Clearance between front of sump and back of bar = 35mm (perhaps not as much as I had initially thought).

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    I spose all this would apply to a RT142 corona as well as their rear suspension is the same when IRS as xa6x and im pretty sure the front is the same or very similar... Good stuff...

    Also i have a rear adjustable sway bar already.. How do the adjustments work.. I think ive got mine set to stiffest but not 100% sure...

    Thanks,

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    The bar is stiffer the closer to the middle the mounting point is. So, outside holes softest, inside holes stiffest.

    You also want to make sure that the endlinks are as close to vertical as possible.

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectly!

    Oh right.. I think ive got mine set to very bloody soft then. lol... Thanks for that mate...

    Also mine came with spacer plates that go between the middle mounting brackets to space the sway bar away from the body.. Whats the go with that?

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    Default Re: xA6x Celica: AE86 castor rods and Whiteline MA61 adjustable swaybars fit perfectl

    Quote Originally Posted by pisso001
    Also mine came with spacer plates that go between the middle mounting brackets to space the sway bar away from the body.. Whats the go with that?
    I have no idea - what brand swaybar do you have, and what model is it for? The Whiteline MA61 one didn't come with any spacers, nor did it need them. I'm not aware of any other brands that make adjustable sways for our cars.

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