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    Default Re: Weld spacer to a rim ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckLandwehr
    You actually need a 30mm positive offset rim, to get rid of the 5mm spacer.

    cheers Chuck.
    I tried on a +38mm rim, and it sat out further from the strut (without the spacer fitted) than the +35mm with a 5mm spacer - that doesn't seem to make any sense with regard to advice above
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    Default Re: Weld spacer to a rim ??

    Then your 35mm rim is wider than the 38mm one.
    Or the 35mm rim is smaller in diamter.

    Only possible explanations.

    (or one of the 2 rims are incorrectly stamped)


    Do you have any idea how the custom hubs relate to the factory ones? (ie track width wise).
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    Default Re: Weld spacer to a rim ??

    Damn, glad I live in a country with a little more common sense around car mods....

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    Default Re: Weld spacer to a rim ??

    I hear that from Americans a lot too, and personally, I'd prefer to live here where we have restrictions.


    EDIT: When you actually sit down and read the NCOP's, they are really very sensible, and VERY open to some serious modifications.

    You just have to chose the right path to take.

    Dont expect to be able to buy an AE86 and drop a turbo LS1 in there.
    But you can still put a 1JZGTE in there and run 30psi (assuming 950kg factory weight)
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    Default Re: Weld spacer to a rim ??

    NZ seems to look more at the end result and less at the specific mods, although there are of course some specific things that are not allowed. Hoping to get hold of an electronic copy of the code of construction used over here so if I do might see if I can get a copy your way as a matter of interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23

    Also, NCOP section LS states that no spacer is legal (unless fitted by manufacturer), and doesnt mention an exception for bolted spacers, so if your engineer is to apply the NCOP as they should, it would mean that it needs to be either factory fitted or an ICV for a spacer to be legal.

    ive read the NCOP and in my opinion it really leaves the door open for adaptors to be used legally. it only mentions adaptors in dual wheel situations.

    i can get adaptors approved if need be
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    Like I said, approved by an engineer is one thing, approved by the Trans Dept is another.

    The Trans Dept has the final say on what you can do. (assuming other states run the same system as WA)


    I'd put money on the fact that if you rang them up and asked if you could use, say, a 25mm thick bolt on adaptor, or a 30mm thick 4 to 5 stud adaptor, or pcd adaptor, purely because the rims you want do not come in an offset to suit your car, then they'd say no.

    If you had a legit reason like your car is a 70's Renault and only runs 3 studs, and you can't find 3 stud wheels anywhere, or a reason a legitimate like that, then for sure I can see them allowing it.
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    Default Re: Weld spacer to a rim ??

    they shouldnt be approving things like that based on need (over safety).

    regardless of the car type or age, the method still has the same risk associated.


    so when i become a drug addicted single mum with 5 kids could i plead my 'need' to have a 1GZ-FTTE approved in a sprinter?
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    but you can still get 3 stud rims and most of them look really good or get the 4 stud kit and use the 4 stud wheels.
    we deal with renualt in france when we buy parts they always send out catalogue's
    you can build a complete renualt alpine group4 from a catalogue gordini motor and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixeruperer
    but you can still get 3 stud rims and most of them look really good or get the 4 stud kit and use the 4 stud wheels.
    we deal with renualt in france when we buy parts they always send out catalogue's
    you can build a complete renualt alpine group4 from a catalogue gordini motor and all.

    i think he was using them as an example, i dont think he wants to buy any 3 stud rims
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    hehe silly me, and here i was thinking there was a drug addicted single mum with 5 kids pleading if she could have a 1GZ-FTTE approved in a sprinter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbon
    I'm having a prick of a time trying to locate some 17x7 < 30mm offset rims. I need that size so I can reuse my existing tyres. Checked all the forum sponsors - but no luck - I don't really want to pay RRP if I can avoid it.
    panasport do 7J +28
    http://page14.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s63125701

    as do Volk
    http://page15.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/t33641746

    there are also ghey ones, 7J +28
    http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m42893982

    these STOCK nissan rims are 17x7J +30
    http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g49942478

    4x100 PCD 7J +30
    http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e70401524

    7J +30
    http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c110412070

    7 +30 ghey type
    http://page14.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s64691610

    OZ, 7J +27, 4x108
    http://page19.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x23569312

    7, +26
    http://page19.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x14461778

    racing hart 7J +25
    http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/96214807


    but in light of your recent finding... what size do you need? sure the current ones are +35?
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    Too many drug addicted single mums about. What width were the +38 rims?? Also, as Stu has pointed out, there are in fact MANY rims in the 'wierd' offsets you want. Also most rims that are available with right offset wrong stud pattern can be purchased blank (like disk rotors) and you get the stud holes drilled by an engineering shop to suit your car... so its a case of problem solved. Heck most wheel manufacturers will probably drill to whatever you want at the factory for $20 a rim extra.

    Like has been said, dont sacrifice safety for anything.
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    Default Re: Weld spacer to a rim ??

    i need rims with a 40mm boss to clear the brake caliper would that meen that the offset changes to a more positive offest becuase there is 40mm of boss on the wheel already ?.
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    Default Re: Weld spacer to a rim ??

    it depends on both spoke design, and offset.

    if the spokes are at the rim edge, then closer to zero or -ve offset will have more space (generally), whereas higher +ve number means less space.

    then again, the skyline rims (as i found recently) are +40, yet have enough clearance for a large sticky outy caliper...

    all depends on rims...
    best advice is to make a profile of the caliper protrusion, and fit up against rims.. see if they fit
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