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    Default MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    Ok does anyone know if a MA61 rear end will bolt into an RA65ST(sedan not hatch)?

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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    deleted cause i might have been wrong
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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    ra65 is IRS
    Both cars have F series diff and from what I've read It's a farily simple swap. The entire IRS subframe bolts in, you get disks on the rear and the F series LSD
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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    Yah, bolts in.

    RA65 is IRS regardless of hatch or sedan

    Also when you change to disk I suggest that you use the MA61, or the correct bias valve for the brakes!

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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    In case you're not aware, the only difference between the two is the disk brakes and LSD centre in the MA61.

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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    Well i just found out my MA61 has a celica subframe in it. It went in with a few minor modifications so it's not a straight forward swap but not too hard afaik.
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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    What are those minor modifications you talk of?

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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    I know the swing arm mount points on MA61's are 65/70mm where as Celica's are 70/70mm.

    Thats the only difference I know of.
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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    That must be it. It was done before i owned the car so don't know specifics and mechanic doesn't really remember.
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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrUZida
    I know the swing arm mount points on MA61's are 65/70mm where as Celica's are 70/70mm.

    Thats the only difference I know of.
    Every celica I have seen has had 65/70....

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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    Shorter hand brake cables maybe between coupe/hatch?

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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    I know xZ1x's cables are ~25mm longer, as is the rear half of the driveshaft.

    Track is also 40mm wider, but not on the Celica
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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    i'd say probably not, the wheelbases are the same across the coupes and hatches

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    Default Re: MA61 Rear end into a RA65ST?

    oh and i can also confirm that a 1985 RA65 ST has the 65/70 mounting points (just checked then)

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